iBroadcast

[r5yk5]

iBroadcast has been mentioned a couple of times but I want to bring it up again as a streaming service to be integrated into Wiim.

iBroadcast is a brilliant service. I believe everyone who has a digital music collection should at least have a look at it because, if nothing else, it can be used as a free back up service. But for those of us who use it as a streaming service for our personal music collections, I think it's a great fit for Wiim.

I can already hear some certain someones say "Why does everything have to be integrated? Why can't you just use their app?" Normally, I'd agree. It could be argued there's no point with Qobuz, for example, because with connect the music plays direct from the Qobuz servers to the wiim. There's no point integrating Emby or Jellyfin or Lyrion etc because their apps will let you play direct from your personal server to the Wiim.

But iBroadcast doesn't have "connect". This means my phone has to be involved (iBroadcast Servers > Phone > Wiim) and that also means the (in my opinion) awful protocol that is chromecast or bluetooth, so no lovely 192/24 playback, sketchy gapless and no leaving your phone upstairs or down the back of the sofa. Why get the phone involved in the playback of the music at all?

Anyway, that's my twopenn'orth.

 

[castalla]

iBroadcast has been mentioned a couple of times but I want to bring it up again as a streaming service to be integrated into Wiim.

iBroadcast is a brilliant service. I believe everyone who has a digital music collection should at least have a look at it because, if nothing else, it can be used as a free back up service. But for those of us who use it as a streaming service for our personal music collections, I think it's a great fit for Wiim.

I can already hear some certain someones say "Why does everything have to be integrated? Why can't you just use their app?" Normally, I'd agree. It could be argued there's no point with Qobuz, for example, because with connect the music plays direct from the Qobuz servers to the wiim. There's no point integrating Emby or Jellyfin or Lyrion etc because their apps will let you play direct from your personal server to the Wiim.

But iBroadcast doesn't have "connect". This means my phone has to be involved (iBroadcast Servers > Phone > Wiim) and that also means the (in my opinion) awful protocol that is chromecast or bluetooth, so no lovely 192/24 playback, sketchy gapless and no leaving your phone upstairs or down the back of the sofa. Why get the phone involved in the playback of the music at all?

Anyway, that's my twopenn'orth.

It's integrated into Lyrion (LMS). I agree that it is an excellent service

 

[castalla]

It's integrated into Lyrion (LMS). I agree that it is an excellent service

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Lyrion displays an icon showing the source of the music (iB and Tidal)

 

[Deleted member 34890]

Side note: Sonos can too.

 

[r5yk5]

It's integrated into Lyrion (LMS). I agree that it is an excellent service

Yes I have an old mini pc that runs LMS specifically for iBroadcast. It's a good workaround and I'm grateful for the plugin. But it still requires a running server on my end and the whole point is to not need one.

My music is on iBroadcast's servers and available for me to stream, I have some streaming devices (wiims), there's a decent API (as proved by the LMS plugin). Come on people, make it happen!

 

[Deleted member 34890]

iBroadcast has been mentioned a couple of times but I want to bring it up again as a streaming service to be integrated into Wiim.

iBroadcast is a brilliant service. I believe everyone who has a digital music collection should at least have a look at it because, if nothing else, it can be used as a free back up service. But for those of us who use it as a streaming service for our personal music collections, I think it's a great fit for Wiim.

I can already hear some certain someones say "Why does everything have to be integrated? Why can't you just use their app?" Normally, I'd agree. It could be argued there's no point with Qobuz, for example, because with connect the music plays direct from the Qobuz servers to the wiim. There's no point integrating Emby or Jellyfin or Lyrion etc because their apps will let you play direct from your personal server to the Wiim.

But iBroadcast doesn't have "connect". This means my phone has to be involved (iBroadcast Servers > Phone > Wiim) and that also means the (in my opinion) awful protocol that is chromecast or bluetooth, so no lovely 192/24 playback, sketchy gapless and no leaving your phone upstairs or down the back of the sofa. Why get the phone involved in the playback of the music at all?

Anyway, that's my twopenn'orth.

By the way, I love this "some certain someones". That is a great wording

 

[castalla]

Side note: Sonos can too.

The Sonos implementation is very good - music selectable by album, playlists, recently added, etc.

This is one I created using the AI Suno

 

[r5yk5]

The Sonos implementation is very good - music selectable by album, playlists, recently added, etc.

This is one I created using the AI Suno



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This is what I'm talking about. And selection by Tag (the custom iBroadcast ones) too.

 

[ja2025]

I really wanted ibroadcast to work for me a while back also but it was just too buggy, at least for me it was. I even paid for one month of premium to test it out. The displayed bitrates were all over the place and not accurate to what I was actually playing, even though I would select original quality. Also alot of album art would randomly show or not show.

 

[castalla]

I really wanted ibroadcast to work for me a while back also but it was just too buggy, at least for me it was. I even paid for one month of premium to test it out. The displayed bitrates were all over the place and not accurate to what I was actually playing, even though I would select original quality. Also alot of album art would randomly show or not show.

Never had any problems with the free tier - but then all my stuff was just mp3s.

 

[r5yk5]

I really wanted ibroadcast to work for me a while back also but it was just too buggy, at least for me it was. I even paid for one month of premium to test it out. The displayed bitrates were all over the place and not accurate to what I was actually playing, even though I would select original quality. Also alot of album art would randomly show or not show.

That's not my experience but maybe I'm just blaming Chromecast. I only use it when out and about and in the car where it transcodes everything before playback. There, for me, it is far more reliable than any self hosted solution and, believe me, I've tried them all.

But...., the Lyrion plugin works perfectly. Any resolution. Which is why I'd like Wiim integration. To take the stupid phone (Chromecast) out of the playback chain.

Let's go Wiim! I know it can be done and I know it will be excellent!

 

[alexstabilini]

iBroadcast is a great streaming service. I've been a subscriber for years.
I used to have a Sonos system and it was all integrated.
Now, switching to a Wiim system, it's a bit of a mess.

 

[r5yk5]

iBroadcast is a great streaming service. I've been a subscriber for years.
I used to have a Sonos system and it was all integrated.
Now, switching to a Wiim system, it's a bit of a mess.

If you can be bothered, and to be honest it's a bit of a faff to set up, the Lyrion music server plugin works perfectly. But it is a workaround on top of a workaround on top of a workaround.

Integration would be preferable in this case.

 

[castalla]

Just bumping this topic - IBROADCAST. P L E A S E

 

[alexstabilini]

Ibroadcast that would be the best....pleaseeee!

 

[HansD-NL]

That's not my experience but maybe I'm just blaming Chromecast. I only use it when out and about and in the car where it transcodes everything before playback. There, for me, it is far more reliable than any self hosted solution and, believe me, I've tried them all.

But...., the Lyrion plugin works perfectly. Any resolution. Which is why I'd like Wiim integration. To take the stupid phone (Chromecast) out of the playback chain.

Let's go Wiim! I know it can be done and I know it will be excellent!

When Chromecast (Google Cast) is involved there is no playback from a phone or other device. It's completely different then Bluetooth or Airplay. You are just offloading (remote controlling as you will) the streaming connection to the player, your WiiM in this case. I saw you mention this in your starting post also so wanted to jump in about this..

 

[r5yk5]

When Chromecast (Google Cast) is involved there is no playback from a phone or other device. It's completely different then Bluetooth or Airplay. You are just offloading (remote controlling as you will) the streaming connection to the player, your WiiM in this case. I saw you mention this in your starting post also so wanted to jump in about this..

It's just google cast in general then. It's such a rubbish experience compared to any other streaming protocol when I try it. It might connect to my Wiim(s) and if it does it takes ages. Then playback takes ages to start and can be patchy. DLNA, RAAT, {spotify,qobuz} connect, squeezelite, sendspin, bluetooth (even) all work smooth as a sausage.

I have requested dlna support in the iBroadcast app, whether that ever happens though.....

 

[harkpabst]

It might connect to my Wiim(s) and if it does it takes ages. Then playback takes ages to start and can be patchy.

While personally my experience with Google Cast is completely different (99.8 % trouble free) and it's just the ever-worsening Google Home app that's driving me nuts), you are still right pointing out that Google Cast doesn't support gapless and 192 kHz 24 bit.

 

[r5yk5]

that Google Cast doesn't support gapless and 192 kHz 24 bit.

It's frustrating; It's like Windows operating system or mp3s or whatsapp etc. Everybody uses them because everybody uses them .So a lot of companies only support them. So everybody uses them. And round and round we go in a never ending circle of mediocrity while there are so much better options out there.
This is directed at iBroadcast (and BBC sounds) rather than Wiim (who support plenty of options)

 

[Burnside]

While personally my experience with Google Cast is completely different (99.8 % trouble free) and it's just the ever-worsening Google Home app that's driving me nuts), you are still right pointing out that Google Cast doesn't support gapless and 192 kHz 24 bit.

Do you mean the latest incarnation of Google Cast (v2 or whatever it's called) as opposed to the Chromecast support we have on the Pro and Pro Plus as I recall getting 24/192 on them but it was a while ago?