Shuffled Tidal playlist on Preset always starts with the same song

[DHvR]

If you put a Tidal playlist on a preset, edit the preset and turn shuffle on, the preset always starts with the same song.
Can this be a random song from the playlist?

When you browse to the playlist in the Wiim app, click shuffle then play, it does play a random song.

 

[Mr Ee]

If you put a Tidal playlist on a preset, edit the preset and turn shuffle on, the preset always starts with the same song.
Can this be a random song from the playlist?

When you browse to the playlist in the Wiim app, click shuffle then play, it does play a random song.

Yep, been that way for a long time; I've raised it with them before.
I'm assuming it's so it can start playing something immediately while it loads the rest of the playlist.
It used to load the playlist very, very slowly, and often fail to load more than a handful of songs.
A recent update seems to have fixed that, but it still always starts with the same song.
For me, using My Tracks, it's always whatever I most recently Liked.

 

[KrimsonAudio]

You're right... I'll report it in the app when I get time. You might want too as well.

 

[rpt]

If you put a Tidal playlist on a preset, edit the preset and turn shuffle on, the preset always starts with the same song.
Can this be a random song from the playlist?

When you browse to the playlist in the Wiim app, click shuffle then play, it does play a random song.

I have seen same or similar symptoms here, although the same song for me plays either the 1st or the 2nd - usually the 2nd song to play. Otherwise the WiiM random algorithm is one of the best if not the best I've seen - or rather heard.

I have a playlist of 4100 songs and growing at a pace of about 60 songs monthly or bimonthly - we have a mostly (99%) vinyl listening nights with mates and we do bookkeeping on played songs on a playlists in both Tidal and Spotify. With that in mind, my Ultra handles the randomness the best I've ever seen, Sound Lite coming close second - it's just that one song repeating every morning alarm .

Can't really suggest a solution without knowing the full working of the innards, but as the alarm is daily, known occurrence, maybe doing full randomizing run on entire list when the speaker is "idling" and then cache couple of the first songs - of course, device memory permitting.

 

[KrimsonAudio]

This is fixed for me ? I haven't noticed it lately using Tidal/Wiim

 

[rpt]

This is fixed for me ? I haven't noticed it lately using Tidal/Wiim

For me it's "I Tempo: Allegro" from the New Trolls every morning - so I wonder if the playlist size has something to do with it.

 

[rpt]

Just ticketed this - the behaviour was reproducible in Ultra and still continuing in Sound Lites (in the mornings I'm far too groggy to report anything before the first coffee...)

 

[Burnside]

Maybe add one or two very short silent tracks to the start of the playlist?

 

[rpt]

Maybe add one or two very short silent tracks to the start of the playlist?

From Tidal? Probably easier said than done. Also - Tidal at least claims to pay bit of bonus to personally most listened artist - so having one track play at every workday morning will skew those payments, at least on my streaming listening habits.

So yes, I'd say this behaviour is a definitely a bug, which is kind of shame, as the Tidal shuffle seems to otherwise to do decent job compared to competition, especially on my 4000+ song playlist.