Wiim Amp large room with Wiim mini?

[KJ315]

Hi,

My question is I have the Wiim Amp connected to my TV, CD & Turntable. It’s in a large room.
My turntable has an internal preamp. Could I put the turntable on the other side of the room, connect it to a Wiim mini and have a “faux” multi room that would play through the passive speakers that are connected to the Wiim Amp on the opposite side of the same room?
Or does the Wiim mini need to connected to a separate pair of speakers in the same room?

Thanks

 

[FreakyKiwi]

Yes, but the mini has a worse ADC than the Amp so won't provide the best signal path from your turntable (biting my tongue to hold my opinions of vinyl)
Wiim Mini ADC 48kHz 16bit 3.5mm
WiiM Amp ADC 192kHz 24 bit RCA

If this is an issue, and you can't connect the turntable directly to the Amp, you could use the Pro Plus which has a similar (same?) ADC as the Amp.

WiiM Mini Review (Streamer)

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Edit WiiM Mini ADC Analog In Measurements
Feeding the Mini analog input and capturing the same, gives this output:

Performance is dominated by distortion. Switching to Toslink out to eliminate effect of the DAC we basically get the same result:

So just like the DAC, this is a mass market ADC implementation. Good enough for common uses though but I would not route the clean output of any DAC through it.

 

[KJ315]

Thanks. Appreciate the knowledge.

 

[Achim1811]

Biting my tongue to hold my opinions about ASR

 

[FreakyKiwi]

LOL, I know, I know.....
It seemed appropriate for a scientific review of the ADC though.
Other subjective reviews agree that the mini (and pro) have average ADC/DAC performance.

 

[Achim1811]

Thats the way I love it. Space and reasons (added by edit) enough for very different approaches

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Biting my tongue to hold my opinions about ASR

That’s quite ridiculous. I thoroughly appreciate, and am happy to listen to any discussion on whether ‘measurements aren’t everything’, but the idea that (implicit in your post in this case and this context) ‘measurements aren’t anything’ is real tinfoil hat stuff.

I am happy to concede some room for debate, but if you think a DAC which has higher distortion and a poorer signal-to-noise ratio will sound better than one with lower distortion and a better SNR is absolutely crazy.

And by the way, as almost every audio manufacturer posts either figures or descriptions claiming their products have low distortion and great SNR, and these get regular mentions with subject subjectivist reviewers, presumably they all believe it, too.

 

[Achim1811]

I wondered already how long it will last
But absolutely no intention to start another discussion about ey ess are.

 

[slartibartfast]

That’s quite ridiculous. I thoroughly appreciate, and am happy to listen to any discussion on whether ‘measurements aren’t everything’, but the idea that (implicit in your post in this case and this context) ‘measurements aren’t anything’ is real tinfoil hat stuff.

I am happy to concede some room for debate, but if you think a DAC which has higher distortion and a poorer signal-to-noise ratio will sound better than one with lower distortion and a better SNR is absolutely crazy.

And by the way, as almost every audio manufacturer posts either figures or descriptions claiming their products have low distortion and great SNR, and these get regular mentions with subject subjectivist reviewers, presumably they all believe it, too.

I guess some just like distortion if it's the right type

 

[Achim1811]

Never denied the importance of measurements, but not done by hobbyists. I rely on my own (long) experience and in the manufacturers (best regarded) I choose. And ey ess are morphed quicker and quicker into a marketing place for FunFi, avoiding the C word.

 

[slartibartfast]

Never denied the importance of measurements, but not done by hobbyists. I rely on my own (long) experience and in the manufacturers (best regarded) I choose. And ey ess are morphed quicker and quicker into a marketing place for FunFi, avoiding the C word.

Yup better to trust the manufacturers like VW emissions measurements

 

[Achim1811]

Again, for @Brantome my promise not to post on this any more. At least for a while

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

I wondered already how long it will last
But absolutely no intention to start another discussion about ey ess are.

But you just did. FreakyKiwi’s post was non-confrontational, relevant, accurate and polite.

If it ever turned into an argument it was with your response, which was confrontational, irrelevant and impolite.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Never denied the importance of measurements, but not done by hobbyists. I rely on my own (long) experience and in the manufacturers (best regarded) I choose. And ey ess are morphed quicker and quicker into a marketing place for FunFi, avoiding the C word.

I’m not sure you could say Amir at ASR was just ‘a hobbyist’.

 

[Achim1811]

Ok, as long as you quote me I will answer.

 

[Achim1811]

As long as I like it

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Ok, as long as you quote me I will answer.View attachment 8528

 

[Brantome]

I didn’t think Wimbledon had started Let’s cool our jets please

 

[KJ315]

I did it. Sounds great!
Settle down….
Thanks,
Bye