Adam Audio D3V

[khuntim]

https://www.adam-audio.com/en/desktop/d3v/

Going to hear these today, I have a small REL sub (Tzero MKIII) that I may try to integrate. Listening distance is 1.8m.

my question is will the Ultra be able to control the volume to USB 1.1 input? 16bit with USB / 48khz

I can try the analog inputs, they are 1/4" TRS (Balanced?) not sure about converting to RCA.

 

[jed1]

I recommend Kali LP-UNF.

Kali Audio — LP-UNF

www.kaliaudio.com

The width is 6.5inch so it will fit your desk. It has unbalanced (RCA), balanced (TRS) and SPDIF inputs - you can try WiiM Ultra's RCA and S/PDIF and choose what you'd like.

Alternatively, you can also try IK Multimedia's iLoud Micro Monitor Pro. It has a room correction function.

iLoud Micro Monitor Pro

iLoud Micro Monitor Pro portable studio monitors by IK Multimedia with built-in ARC correction, X-Monitor integration, and more make critical mixing possible in the studio, at home or on the go.

www.ikmultimedia.com

 

[khuntim]

These are small speakers, indeed. Note that they do need some.space.tonthe left and right due to the passive radiators. Depending on what space permits, a conventional reflex design might be the better choice for you.


Theses may be inexpensive desktop speakers, but they have been designed as (small) monitors, so all the DSP stuff generally makes some sense.

Except that your WiiM Ultra can do all that already, so you pay for something you don't really need. The choice of (better) loudspeakers is endless, but not at this very low price point (330 € per pair). These KEF Q3 plus WiiM Vibelink Amp are good example. They will certainly offer better performance, but you'll have to spend ~1070 €.

The walnut finish Q3 can currently be found at a discounted price, depending on where you live) that could save you 150 €.

Yeah, seems any powered monitors with class D amps would always need an ADC for the analog input? USB output on Ultra was supposed to be good?

would not be much space for the passive radiators on the Adam either.

Not too worried about price. happy to spend more.

I heard the the KEF Q3 Meta - it was wonderful using the Ultra DAC/Vibelink, unfortunately I need something 6" (150mm) wide or so for my small shelf.

I can barely squeeze something like Kali LP-UNF, much prefer a bit smaller.

https://www.kaliaudio.com/lp-unf

I'll go hear them this week

 

[khuntim]

I recommend Kali LP-UNF.

Kali Audio — LP-UNF

www.kaliaudio.com

The width is 6.5inch so it will fit your desk. It has unbalanced (RCA), balanced (TRS) and SPDIF inputs - you can try WiiM Ultra's RCA and S/PDIF and choose what you'd like.

Alternatively, you can also try IK Multimedia's iLoud Micro Monitor Pro. It has a room correction function.

iLoud Micro Monitor Pro

iLoud Micro Monitor Pro portable studio monitors by IK Multimedia with built-in ARC correction, X-Monitor integration, and more make critical mixing possible in the studio, at home or on the go.

www.ikmultimedia.com

Nice! I was just looking the Kali over, they will barley fit! really larger than I want, nothing else making sense.

 

[khuntim]

These are small speakers, indeed. Note that they do need some.space.tonthe left and right due to the passive radiators. Depending on what space permits, a conventional reflex design might be the better choice for you.


Theses may be inexpensive desktop speakers, but they have been designed as (small) monitors, so all the DSP stuff generally makes some sense.

Except that your WiiM Ultra can do all that already, so you pay for something you don't really need. The choice of (better) loudspeakers is endless, but not at this very low price point (330 € per pair). These KEF Q3 plus WiiM Vibelink Amp are good example. They will certainly offer better performance, but you'll have to spend ~1070 €.

The walnut finish Q3 can currently be found at a discounted price, depending on where you live) that could save you 150 €.

I don't have room for the KEF Q3 Meta or Q1. maximum 165mm/6.5" wide, really prefer a bit smaller, I will have a small REL sub also.

Adding the Vibelink makes sense, it's not that expensive and opens up way more possibilities with passive speakers.

Going to hear the Kali today, but having to control speaker volume at the speaker doesn't make sense at my 6ft/1.8m listening distance.

 

[jed1]

I don't have room for the KEF Q3 Meta or Q1. maximum 165mm/6.5" wide, really prefer a bit smaller, I will have a small REL sub also.

Adding the Vibelink makes sense, it's not that expensive and opens up way more possibilities with passive speakers.

Going to hear the Kali today, but having to control speaker volume at the speaker doesn't make sense at my 6ft/1.8m listening distance.

Speaking of active speakers especially studio monitors, they are highly price competitive and use more advanced technology than consumer ones.

For active monitor speakers like Kali, the volume is controlled at audio interface, dedicated volume controller or pre-amplifier. For your setup, volume control is on WiiM Ultra.

 

[Valentino]

FTR a class D powered speaker does not need an ADC on the input. It only needs it if its crossover is implemented in DSP.

 

[khuntim]

Speaking of active speakers especially studio monitors, they are highly price competitive and use more advanced technology than consumer ones.

For active monitor speakers like Kali, the volume is controlled at audio interface, dedicated volume controller or pre-amplifier. For your setup, volume control is on WiiM Ultra.

so an active speaker in general would be full volume and the preamp or ultra controls volume?

what about keeping the line-out at 100% and using the speaker volume?

I'm guessing whatever sounds best depending on the system.

I do like the idea of an amp and some passive speakers, just hard to find anything 6"/150mm wide, still looking.

The Kali has no sleep mode, would have to shut them down. the power adapter always plugged in with small power draw, still - another adapter plugged in all the time.

I'll hear them soon.

 

[jed1]

so an active speaker in general would be full volume and the preamp or ultra controls volume?

what about keeping the line-out at 100% and using the speaker volume?

I'm guessing whatever sounds best depending on the system.

I do like the idea of an amp and some passive speakers, just hard to find anything 6"/150mm wide, still looking.

The Kali has no sleep mode, would have to shut them down. the power adapter always plugged in with small power draw, still - another adapter plugged in all the time.

I'll hear them soon.

Volume on active studio monitor is not volume control. It is input "gain" control. A proper way to set gain structure (i.e. chain of gains across the system) is;

1. Set pre-amplifier volume to about 90% of the maximum volume
2. Adjust gain setting on active monitor speaker to the maximum listening volume at the listening position
3. Use pre-amplifier volume (for this case, WiiM Ultra volume) to adjust and leave gain on the powered speaker

By doing this, you maintain maximum signal-to-noise ratio and have a headroom in case you need to listen louder than nominal setting.

I use a Furman power filter / strip to turn on and off the entire system - WiiM's, 5 active monitor / subs, a DAC, Apple TV, TV and etc.

 

[khuntim]

Volume on active studio monitor is not volume control. It is input "gain" control. A proper way to set gain structure (i.e. chain of gains across the system) is;

1. Set pre-amplifier volume to about 90% of the maximum volume
2. Adjust gain setting on active monitor speaker to the maximum listening volume at the listening position
3. Use pre-amplifier volume (for this case, WiiM Ultra volume) to adjust and leave gain on the powered speaker

By doing this, you maintain maximum signal-to-noise ratio and have a headroom in case you need to listen louder than nominal setting.

I use a Furman power filter / strip to turn on and off the entire system - WiiM's, 5 active monitor / subs, a DAC, Apple TV, TV and etc.

Interesting, that is what I was doing, 90% on the Ultra. I'll hear the Kali's tomorrow, still searching for ideas on smaller passive speakers.

I have a serious power strip, sort of hard to get to the switch behind TV, I use when leaving long term.