Feedback Needed: Music Sources Survey

We want to hear from you! We're running a short survey to better understand how our community listens to audio at home. If you listen to music services, podcasts, physical media, TV or anything else, come let us know. It only takes a minute or two. Your feedback genuinely helps us improve WiiM for everyone.

Thanks so much for taking the time!

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[Burnside]

Done

 

[Intruder]

Responded

 

[MotleyG]

Survey completed

 

[r5yk5]

These endless discussions and requests for support of this and that streaming service make me think that the cart is being put before the horse.

Instead the ball should be played into the half of the streaming providers and their apps. If they provided detection of and transmission to UPnP renderers on local networks this whole issue would be dissolved.

It would also force Sonos, Teufel, Bluesound and others to finally provide UPnP connectivity. This would be a big step ahead for local content as well. Being able to access a decent server is so much nicer (and faster) than having to rely on SMB sharing and building their own ghastly libraries.

I agree, to a point. But I'd like my service of choice integrated with my Wiim devices because chromecast is such an awful way of transporting music from my phone to my wiim. Even if they did add UPNP/DLNA capabilities to their app (which I do pester them about from time to time), why send the music from their severs to my phone to my Wiim when the API exists to miss the phone out of the equation all together?

Personally, I'm not bothered whether I'm sat in the cart or riding the horse, so long as I get to the market.

 

[harkpabst]

Survey completed.

 

[slartibartfast]

I agree, to a point. But I'd like my service of choice integrated with my Wiim devices because chromecast is such an awful way of transporting music from my phone to my wiim. Even if they did add UPNP/DLNA capabilities to their app (which I do pester them about from time to time), why send the music from their severs to my phone to my Wiim when the API exists to miss the phone out of the equation all together?

Personally, I'm not bothered whether I'm sat in the cart or riding the horse, so long as I get to the market.

I thought Chromecast did bypass your phone.

 

[hgo58]

I though Chromecast did bypass your phone.

Yes. Except when the original source is the phone, Chromecast (Google Cast) is directly between external server and the local device (WiiM). The phone is acting as the controller only (like a remote).

It's easy to test. Just start the casting and then turn the phone off.

 

[Damme]

Survey completed

 

[Aquaman]

I agree, to a point. But I'd like my service of choice integrated with my Wiim devices because chromecast is such an awful way of transporting music from my phone to my wiim. Even if they did add UPNP/DLNA capabilities to their app (which I do pester them about from time to time), why send the music from their severs to my phone to my Wiim when the API exists to miss the phone out of the equation all together?

Personally, I'm not bothered whether I'm sat in the cart or riding the horse, so long as I get to the market.

I agree that a direct stream from the server to the WiiM is preferable. But why should that not be possible vis UPnP if it works for Chromecast.?

In any case the current situation is a dead end.

 

[Aquaman]

@RyanWithWiiM
Will you publish the results of this survey?

 

[Mr Ee]

@RyanWithWiiM
Will you publish the results of this survey?

Not until we have 20 pages of 'Responded / Completed' posts.

 

[r5yk5]

I thought Chromecast did bypass your phone.

Yes. Except when the original source is the phone, Chromecast (Google Cast) is directly between external server and the local device (WiiM). The phone is acting as the controller only (like a remote).

It's easy to test. Just start the casting and then turn the phone off.

Not with iBroadcast. It downloads to your phone then casts from there. ...... which is why, in the case of that particular service, I'd prefer integration with Wiim.

 

[Valentino]

building their own ghastly libraries.

Hey! My library ain’t ghastly!

I’d say a local library is quite nice. Ripped cds grain before the loudness wars, downloaded music files that are not available on the streaming services and so on.

Survey completed.

 

[Aquaman]

Hey! My library ain’t ghastly!

I’d say a local library is quite nice. Ripped cds grain before the loudness wars, downloaded music files that are not available on the streaming services and so on.

Survey completed.

Of course YOUR library isn‘t ghastly.
You‘ve quoted me out of context.
I was drawing a comparision between what e.g. MinimServer can make out of a local library as opposed to what e.g. Bluesound does.

 

[hgo58]

Not with iBroadcast. It downloads to your phone then casts from there.

That would be unusual. Are you sure. Did you test it?

The iBroadcast app may make the casting continue but does it also stream audio data from the phone?

 

[Aquaman]

Occasionally I listen to internet radio stations for some background music.
Whenever I notice a tune I particularly like I will take a screenshot of the details in order to maybe buy it on Qobuz.
But first I will look it up in my own library and in many cases I‘ve already got it.
So why should I pay for a streaming service?
Many people will only listen to ready-made playlists anyway. They might just as well turn on the radio.

 

[Burnside]

That would be unusual. Are you sure. Did you test it?

The iBroadcast app may make the casting continue but does also stream audio data from the phone?

I'd be surprised if the audio came from the phone as the whole point of iBroadcast is that it stores your local music in its cloud so that services like Alexa can play it. I would have said that the use of Chromecast tells the iBroadcast cloud service to send the track from its cloud to the playing device.

 

[QuarryHunslet]

I was drawing a comparision between what e.g. MinimServer can make out of a local library as opposed to what e.g. Bluesound does.

MinimServer free version does everything I could possibly want to do with my local library.

 

[Saponetto]

Done.

 

[castalla]

These endless discussions and requests for support of this and that streaming service make me think that the cart is being put before the horse.

Instead the ball should be played into the half of the streaming providers and their apps. If they provided detection of and transmission to UPnP renderers on local networks this whole issue would be dissolved.

It would also force Sonos, Teufel, Bluesound and others to finally provide UPnP connectivity. This would be a big step ahead for local content as well. Being able to access a decent server is so much nicer (and faster) than having to rely on SMB sharing and building their own ghastly libraries.

Sonos has upnp enabled - see the upnpbridge plugin for Lyrion