Pragmatist
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A few know that I've finally buried my WiiM Pro a while ago beside it's siblings Mini and PP.
Initially I didn't want to open this barrel again, but things became even worse over the last hours while driving back home. (It seems that removing the WiiM and the software wasn't so successful at all. There are traces I will not accept.)
Because I am still helping the family company it is mandatory that all devices in our networks have to stand regular security checks. Done by externals. The WiiM didn't pass. "Too many uncontrollable, unavoidable and ridiculous frequent internet activities!" Closing the doors makes it obviously senseless for a streamer. I work from home and listen to music at home, but I surely will not run another router or routines only for one toy. My other streamers, Cambridge and Linn, passed all checks without any problems. And at least Linn is working with AWS too.
The WiiMs got my exception granted as one and only Chinese branded devices. Has it's history, I was a very early adaptor years ago by coincidence. But now I can not and definitively want no to find justification anymore.
So, my necessary action was taken a while ago already.
And now my very personal opinion while waiting (no, not really) for the dreamers with the usual echo "a tech and hobby forum has to stay policy free". NOTHING is policy free nowadays.
Let us at least try to stay realistic! This forum and the gear it's about comes from a Chinese company. Does China stand for privacy and internet security? (Not to forget human rights? I remember called racist here for "attacking" China, that makes it now much more easy to divorce
. What makes you believe they give a single Cent for anyone's privacy? Been in Beijing during the last years? 
We are talking about an autocratic system, not the people. As a German we have more than enough painful history with at least two of that.
This are the reasons I gave away my WiiMs. It will not drive WiiM or any other company in bankruptcy, but it feels better.
It's this f...g hypocrisy, I felt myself in too! Living in a more liberal part of the world, criticizing other systems but sending the money over just to make them even stronger. Even a company like AE is supported by some. Everything you can buy from China you can buy elsewhere. But yes, it has its price. Of course it is nearly impossible to avoid manufactured in C. or parts from C. in audio, but have a look where the main part of the added value ends. I prefer London and Glasgow f.e.
So, everyone should make an own decision.
For me it is time (again. And Pete, this time I promise: No Sinatra!.) It was an honor to read you and even meet a handful. There are exceptions, of course.
Feel free to delete this post. My account will be gone in 7 days anyway, that is what WiiM needs. Be sure, you'll read about it soon somewhere. Now it got personal.
Initially I didn't want to open this barrel again, but things became even worse over the last hours while driving back home. (It seems that removing the WiiM and the software wasn't so successful at all. There are traces I will not accept.)
Because I am still helping the family company it is mandatory that all devices in our networks have to stand regular security checks. Done by externals. The WiiM didn't pass. "Too many uncontrollable, unavoidable and ridiculous frequent internet activities!" Closing the doors makes it obviously senseless for a streamer. I work from home and listen to music at home, but I surely will not run another router or routines only for one toy. My other streamers, Cambridge and Linn, passed all checks without any problems. And at least Linn is working with AWS too.
The WiiMs got my exception granted as one and only Chinese branded devices. Has it's history, I was a very early adaptor years ago by coincidence. But now I can not and definitively want no to find justification anymore.
So, my necessary action was taken a while ago already.
And now my very personal opinion while waiting (no, not really) for the dreamers with the usual echo "a tech and hobby forum has to stay policy free". NOTHING is policy free nowadays.
Let us at least try to stay realistic! This forum and the gear it's about comes from a Chinese company. Does China stand for privacy and internet security? (Not to forget human rights? I remember called racist here for "attacking" China, that makes it now much more easy to divorce
. What makes you believe they give a single Cent for anyone's privacy? Been in Beijing during the last years? We are talking about an autocratic system, not the people. As a German we have more than enough painful history with at least two of that.This are the reasons I gave away my WiiMs. It will not drive WiiM or any other company in bankruptcy, but it feels better.
It's this f...g hypocrisy, I felt myself in too! Living in a more liberal part of the world, criticizing other systems but sending the money over just to make them even stronger. Even a company like AE is supported by some. Everything you can buy from China you can buy elsewhere. But yes, it has its price. Of course it is nearly impossible to avoid manufactured in C. or parts from C. in audio, but have a look where the main part of the added value ends. I prefer London and Glasgow f.e.
So, everyone should make an own decision.
For me it is time (again. And Pete, this time I promise: No Sinatra!
.) It was an honor to read you and even meet a handful. There are exceptions, of course. Feel free to delete this post. My account will be gone in 7 days anyway, that is what WiiM needs. Be sure, you'll read about it soon somewhere. Now it got personal.
