Sub out question

[Dennis from Venice]

I have an external USB DAC with a Sub coming from the Ultra and also have the sub slider to YES. What happens? Does the DAC only get the frequencies above the crossover? Or does the DAC get the full 20-20k?

And I have the line out wired to an external headphones. And if I switch outputs from USB out to LINE OUT (my headphone amp), the sub still is active. I suppose on my wishlist is the ability to have the sub yes/no for each output.

I have two other options for the sub to work around the above issue.
1) I can put low level rca L+R to the sub and have the sub control crossover,.
2) I have a sub out on my amp although there is no crossover control....I think it is a fixed 80Hz

If I do either of the above, do I choose sub=NO in the Ultra?

 

[Wiimer]

I have an external USB DAC with a Sub coming from the Ultra and also have the sub slider to YES. What happens? Does the DAC only get the frequencies above the crossover? Or does the DAC get the full 20-20k?

And I have the line out wired to an external headphones. And if I switch outputs from USB out to LINE OUT (my headphone amp), the sub still is active. I suppose on my wishlist is the ability to have the sub yes/no for each output.

I have two other options for the sub to work around the above issue.
1) I can put low level rca L+R to the sub and have the sub control crossover,.
2) I have a sub out on my amp although there is no crossover control....I think it is a fixed 80Hz

If I do either of the above, do I choose sub=NO in the Ultra?

Currently, the USB out cannot use the Sub out. With the Sub out turned on, the USB out will not be highpassed and will be full range. Therefore, the sub out should be turned off.

 

[Dennis from Venice]

Currently, the USB out cannot use the Sub out. With the Sub out turned on, the USB out will not be highpassed and will be full range. Therefore, the sub out should be turned off.

Ouch. I thought so. I suppose the sub slider should be greyed out? I presume the room correction is full range?

 

[Tatifan]

I hope this is possible at some point. I’ve had my Ultra for about 3 weeks and was (just) checking out using my Oppo 205 as an outboard DAC. The Ultra functioned nicely to control volume, but I couldn’t get the sub to respond even when hooked to the output of the Oppo. For sure it does not engage when hooked up to the Ultra when the Oppo is selected as the output. This really forces me to discard the idea of an outboard DAC, which was definitely a selling point. A passthru without the Ultra’s internal DAC processing would perhaps solve the problem, but one can’t ask for everything at this price point.

 

[Burnside]

Are you using the ultra’s usb out to the Oppo? If so, the sub on the ultra isn’t currently enabled for usb connection.

 

[harkpabst]

In other words: Coax and optical can be used to connect to an external DAC keeping the sub out feature.

 

[Tatifan]

In other words: Coax and optical can be used to connect to an external DAC keeping the sub out feature.

Oh, there it is! I don’t know why I misunderstood this, but I hooked it up through coax and of course that solved it. Thank you!

 

[jkdjedi]

Thanks guys.. I almost gave up hope until reading this thread... Coax in Da Mail!!

 

[Flatron7]

Hi everyone, I have a similar problem. This thing that when you use an external dac via usb you can't use the sub output bothers me a lot. Will it be possible in the future? I have some Dynaudio Focus 60 xd completely digital, they have a Coax digital input. I tried to connect the Wiim directly in coaxial to the speakers and the sound is good but when I connect the wiin ultra via usb to my DDC singxer su6 and then in coaxial to the speakers the sound is much better but I can't use the sub output anymore. This thing is really very annoying. I would really like to know if in the future it will be possible to use the sub output with the usb or I will be forced to sell the wiim ultra.

 

[Burnside]

WiiM have said they are investigating the use of a sub alongside usb out but they haven’t confirmed the result. Maybe raise a ticket direct to them via the settings/feedback section in the app and ask them again and let us know what they say.

 

[Flatron7]

WiiM have said they are investigating the use of a sub alongside usb out but they haven’t confirmed the result. Maybe raise a ticket direct to them via the settings/feedback section in the app and ask them again and let us know what they say.

I did as you said and they replied like this: "We will develop support for simultaneous USB output and sub out functions in the future. Thank you for your patience and understanding"

 

[Burnside]

I did as you said and they replied like this: "We will develop support for simultaneous USB output and sub out functions in the future. Thank you for your patience and understanding"

Yeah, got a similar confirmation yesterday

An unimaginable torture: Ultra or Amp Pro

Yes. Sorry, I presume you mean by ‘control’ and ‘separate DAC chip’ you’re talking about bass management, etc., in the DAC that’s IN the Ultra. By ‘separate DAC chip’ I presumed onlyoneme was referring to any external DAC.

forum.wiimhome.com

 

[Flatron7]

Yeah, got a similar confirmation yesterday

An unimaginable torture: Ultra or Amp Pro

Yes. Sorry, I presume you mean by ‘control’ and ‘separate DAC chip’ you’re talking about bass management, etc., in the DAC that’s IN the Ultra. By ‘separate DAC chip’ I presumed onlyoneme was referring to any external DAC.

forum.wiimhome.com

let's hope it really is like this, because it would be a huge leap in quality and a huge advantage for wiim products. I asked Blesound if the new products allow the use of the sub with the usb output activated and they confirmed that it is not possible and it is not in their plans, therefore if wiim succeeded it would kill the competition even more.

 

[rookie35m]

In other words: Coax and optical can be used to connect to an external DAC keeping the sub out feature.

Doesn"t work for me.

 

[rookie35m]

Doesn"t work for me.

With Optical out

 

[harkpabst]

Information overflow.

 

[jkdjedi]

I'm now searching for stand alone speakers that don't need a subwoofer...

 

[harkpabst]

I'm now searching for stand alone speakers that don't need a subwoofer...

Why?

 

[jkdjedi]

Why?

For that room filling sound

 

[harkpabst]

Information overflow, Part II.