Using Logitech Media Server - music streamed from that service takes over the stream from Apple Music and Amazon Music. How can find the problem?

[jmkeuning]

I know the artists don't matter, but I am going to mention them to keep this straight.

Back in December I played some George Winston to my Wiim Amp. I play the music from called iPeng on iOS. Stopped playing it when I was done. All good. Then my wife sends some music to the Wiim Amp from Amazon a few days later. That's fine. Plays fine. We tell Alexa to stop and the music stops. And then at some random time later George Winston starts playing again. I thought some glitch got into the stream and figured it will work itself out.

But the other day the same thing happened on the Wiim Mini. All is well and I am playing some chill music from Apple Music and all of a suddenly Drive By Truckers comes out blasting. I open the Wiim app to stop it. It stops. I open Ipeng and DBT is sitting in there. Is Ipeng just randomly starting to stream?

Does anyone have any advice about how I can diagnose this? I've used LMS for at least ten years and recently switched to Wiim players because they connect to LMS. But I recently sold all the LMS gear (end of an era ) so I am not bound to the server anymore and can switch to something else if needed.

 

[Burnside]

Given the mini doesn’t have a squeezelite client, are you using the upnpbridge plugin so it can be used by LMS?

If not, is it maybe a Bluetooth connection being re-established from your phone to your WiiM and that is somehow resuming playback?

The LMS logs might be able to show which device initiated the playback if it’s not a Bluetooth issue.

 

[Valentino]

What is your LMS version? I’ve had issues with it auto restarting play but it’s fine with the latest 32 bit version (the old pc won’t have the 64 bit).

 

[slartibartfast]

What is your LMS version? I’ve had issues with it auto restarting play but it’s fine with the latest 32 bit version (the old pc won’t have the 64 bit).

Really? The only time mine has started playing unexpectedly is when I accidentally hit play in a control app on my phone. Another explanation could be exposing LMS to the internet, there is always someone keen to mess with your head

 

[Valentino]

Maybe it was our dog putting its nose on the Squeezebox Touch. It’s a small dog, he cannot reach the Ultra.

To be serious: Chances are that it’s not a sw gremlin but user interaction.

 

[d6jg]

iPeng being a full iOS app does have the locked home screen control thing (it has a name but I can't remember it). Anyway this is easily reactivated accidentally.

If you are using iPeng as a controller only and it happens again I would swap from iPeng to controlling with Material plugin on the iPhone. Open it in Safari http://lmsipaddress:9000/material and then before using it do "Add to Home Screen". Then close Safari. You should then have a funky icon that opens full screen on your home screen.

 

[jmkeuning]

Given the mini doesn’t have a squeezelite client, are you using the upnpbridge plugin so it can be used by LMS?

If not, is it maybe a Bluetooth connection being re-established from your phone to your WiiM and that is somehow resuming playback?

The LMS logs might be able to show which device initiated the playback if it’s not a Bluetooth issue.

Yes, I am using UPnPBridge.

 

[jmkeuning]

What is your LMS version? I’ve had issues with it auto restarting play but it’s fine with the latest 32 bit version (the old pc won’t have the 64 bit).

8.3.1

 

[jmkeuning]

Maybe it was our dog putting its nose on the Squeezebox Touch. It’s a small dog, he cannot reach the Ultra.

To be serious: Chances are that it’s not a sw gremlin but user interaction.

I hope it's user interaction because that seems like something I can track down.

I am sitting here listening to an album on Apple Music streaming to Wiim Amp. I am playing it from my iphone 15, which is sitting on the table next to me. Album ends. And then a totally different album starts playing and it's because LMS started playing an album that I was playing a week ago. I didn't touch my phone.

So the exact behavior appears to be - when my current stream from Apple Music another service ends, that last LMS stream resumes.

I think the Ipeng player is a red herring, but something is telling LMS to start streaming.

 

[jmkeuning]

The LMS logs might be able to show which device initiated the playback if it’s not a Bluetooth issue.

What should I look for in the logs?

After further observation, it appears that LMS starts playing to the Wiim when whatever other streaming service ends. For example, if I am playing an album from Apple Music, when that album ends, LMS starts streaming the last thing is was streaming, even if that was like a week ago.

 

[Hiphiman]

What should I look for in the logs?

After further observation, it appears that LMS starts playing to the Wiim when whatever other streaming service ends. For example, if I am playing an album from Apple Music, when that album ends, LMS starts streaming the last thing is was streaming, even if that was like a week ago.

I have had exactly the same issue with WiiM Mini (upnpbridge) after it finishes playing Amazon Music: if there is anything on an LMS playlist within PiCorePlayer then that starts playing, no matter how long ago it last played. To my shame, I have not spent any time trying to troubleshoot it beyond ensuring I do not have any playlist left on LMS when I finish using it.

 

[Valentino]

I suggest that you both submit tickets from WiiM Home to let WiiM Support have a look at the logs.