20 Band Geq

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Turho76

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Hello everybidy! We have already requested it countless times, we also requested it in the app, I will enter it here as well. Stereo 20 band Geq, with finer steps. Because there are too many jumps for 10 bars. It would be great if there were 20-25 Hz, and an intermediate band in more places, but also 6k, 12k, 14k... It's okay if it's not per channel, but please, 20 BAND GEQ OPTIONALLY CHOOSABLE . Graphically, it might be possible to solve a 2x10 lane layout, in 2 rows. (Perhaps auto Gain would also be useful). Is that too much to ask? Could the hardware handle it? We've been asking for months. Thanks for the support. Regards.

@WiiM Support @WiiM Team
 
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Wiimer said:
Adding another WiiM and connecting it to the optical input easily provides 20 bands. 😉😁
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But at least we know that there are many reasons why even the thought is stupid. I still think that the WIIM GEQ with these foolishly chosen frequency values is like a commercial hi-fi tower in the 80s. Or option B, the hardware cannot handle 20 bands. Merry Christmas to everyone who laughed at this request or didn't understand the reason :) I might just catch myself and throw this half-finished, unstable miracle in the trash. 😥
 
Turho76 said:
But at least we know that there are many reasons why even the thought is stupid. I still think that the WIIM GEQ with these foolishly chosen frequency values is like a commercial hi-fi tower in the 80s. Or option B, the hardware cannot handle 20 bands. Merry Christmas to everyone who laughed at this request or didn't understand the reason :) I might just catch myself and throw this half-finished, unstable miracle in the trash. 😥
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Hope you start 2025 with a more reflected, aware and positive attitude! All the best! 👋🏻
 
Hello! I originally started the post several months ago. Still really missing more than 10 band GEQ....mainly 20Hz, with 6, 10kHz options on top. If it can't be 20 lanes, can't it be at least 15? Would it really hurt users to have a little more bandwidth? Because it has been troubling me ever since. I just don't like PEQ, I'm an older user. Big speakers and big room... thank you.
 
@WiiM Support if WiiM decides to implement GEQ with more number of frequency banks, could you model after pro 31-band audio equalizers such as below?

DBX1231: https://dbxpro.com/en-US/products/1231
FBQ3102HD: https://www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=0821-ABC
ART EQ355: https://artproaudio.com/installation/product/55323/eq355

They have;
  1. Same set of 31 frequency banks (ISO frequencies with 1/3 octave spacing)
  2. Bandwidth of 1/3 octave (constant Q value) and +/-12 or 15dB gain
  3. Low-cut and high-cut filters but with different types and slopes
  4. Pre-equalization gains (to avoid clipping)
Countering the claim of 10-band being sufficient, I believe there have to be good reasons pro audio have either 15 or 31-band GEQ implemented widely in live music and music production - this is also carried to digital mixers.

Thanks!
 
jed1 said:
@WiiM Support if WiiM decides to implement GEQ with more number of frequency banks, could you model after pro 31-band audio equalizers such as below?

DBX1231: https://dbxpro.com/en-US/products/1231
FBQ3102HD: https://www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=0821-ABC
ART EQ355: https://artproaudio.com/installation/product/55323/eq355

They have;
  1. Same set of 31 frequency banks (ISO frequencies with 1/3 octave spacing)
  2. Bandwidth of 1/3 octave (constant Q value) and +/-12 or 15dB gain
  3. Low-cut and high-cut filters but with different types and slopes
  4. Pre-equalization gains (to avoid clipping)
Countering the claim of 10-band being sufficient, I believe there have to be good reasons pro audio have either 15 or 31-band GEQ implemented widely in live music and music production - this is also carried to digital mixers.

Thanks!
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I would be happy with 3-4 band extensions or a 15 Band Geq. 20 Hz at the bottom, and 1-2 finer octaves at the top. But everyone has already told me that I'm old and stupid, that 10 bars is enough. I'm tired of it, even though it is possible to justify why it should be.
 
Turho76 said:
I would be happy with 3-4 band extensions or a 15 Band Geq. 20 Hz at the bottom, and 1-2 finer octaves at the top. But everyone has already told me that I'm old and stupid, that 10 bars is enough. I'm tired of it, even though it is possible to justify why it should be.
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ISO frequency for 15 band GEQ starts at 25Hz and ends at 16kHz while 31-band starts at 20Hz and ends at 20kHz. This is to keep the frequency spacing in an equal octave within audible range.
 
jed1 said:
ISO frequency for 15 band GEQ starts at 25Hz and ends at 16kHz while 31-band starts at 20Hz and ends at 20kHz. This is to keep the frequency spacing in an equal octave within audible range.
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I know, but I'd be happy with 15...
 
Turho76 said:
I know, but I'd be happy with 15...
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What is the difference between "I'd be happy with 15" and "I'd be happy with 10"? It sounds to me like you are saying the same thing as the member who objected to you here 🤔.

My (constructive) suggestion remains the same as last time: use two WiiMs and replicate 20-band GEQ with PEQ. You may say it is silly, but I think it is more realistic than waiting for a feature that we don't know when it will happen. And adding one more WIIM is still inexpensive. And perhaps age has little to do with trying something new 🙂.
 
Wiimer said:
What is the difference between "I'd be happy with 15" and "I'd be happy with 10"? It sounds to me like you are saying the same thing as the member who objected to you here 🤔.

My (constructive) suggestion remains the same as last time: use two WiiMs and replicate 20-band GEQ with PEQ. You may say it is silly, but I think it is more realistic than waiting for a feature that we don't know when it will happen. And adding one more WIIM is still inexpensive. And perhaps age has little to do with trying something new 🙂.
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To this day, I still think that most people wouldn't be bothered by 15 tracks. A finer division above 4 kHz and a low frequency starting around 20 Hz would be necessary. I don't want 2 Wiis for 2 reasons. One: I listen to music on a simple stereo system, in the 18 square meter room of a simple small apartment. The other reason: I don't want to complicate the system, and we don't have a Wii relatively cheap in Hungary. (I'm looking for 1000 Euros...). The 15, but maybe even 20 bands wouldn't hurt anyone, yet it caused great resentment. Most people use peq or room correction. So who would bother? I think the hardware could handle 15 bands.
I started doubting this months ago, I tried to ask respectfully....I no longer hope that it will ever come true. Have a nice day.
 
@Turho76 you may want to check out Behringer FDQ3102HD. It is 139 Euro at thomann and perhaps, you can find used ones at lower price. Of course, a built-in GEQ is better (no cost, no additional equipment, app-controlled).
 
jed1 said:
@Turho76 you may want to check out Behringer FDQ3102HD. It is 139 Euro at thomann and perhaps, you can find used ones at lower price. Of course, a built-in GEQ is better (no cost, no additional equipment, app-controlled).
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I'd prefer the Wii to know that you don't have to buy anything. With an Aiyima A70, they form a small-sized but high-quality pair in a small room. 20 Hz, 6k, 14k, maybe 18k, it would take 3 or 4 GEQ bands to get comfortable with Pro Plus Geq knowledge. I would be satisfied with the 3 extra bands of 20 Hz, 6kHz and 14kHz.
 
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