A WiiM with a USB C output.

[BMoreJazz]

Toslink can not fully resolve 192khz. Many streamer platforms have tracks that produce 192khz which means the mini will come up short.

 

[onlyoneme]

Toslink can not fully resolve 192khz. Many streamer platforms have tracks that produce 192khz which means the mini will come up short.

It can provide a bandwidth sufficient for spdif stream with 192 kHz audio. And it's not always guaranteed.

 

[Brantome]

Toslink can not fully resolve 192khz. Many streamer platforms have tracks that produce 192khz which means the mini will come up short.

Funny, been fine on my mini for almost a year…

 

[Klipscher]

I second the ideal of a usb c output. I be a nice option to have with the next model.

 

[BMoreJazz]

After some investigation, I've learned that my issue was with the Toslink mini adaptor. When I removed it and used a different DAC, I was getting 192khz. However, I still can hear some static at a very low volume but, it no longer impacts the sound.

 

[richeney]

I would definitely go for a WiiM streamer pro that had no DAC, and just had power, ethernet, USB-C out, coax, and toslink. Perhaps Bluetooth too, but allow that to be toggled off.

 

[cooky560]

Doesn't the Ultra have a USB out? Wouldn't this work with some kind of a-c adaptor?

 

[ratty]

Doesn't the Ultra have a USB out? Wouldn't this work with some kind of a-c adaptor?

At substantially greater cost than is warranted. One assumes @richeney was thinking of something akin to the FiiO SR11. I'd certainly welcome such a box from WiiM.

 

[Burnside]

Why the clamour for usb-c? I don’t feel I’m missing anything by not having that on any of my kit

 

[ratty]

Why the clamour for usb-c? I don’t feel I’m missing anything by not having that on any of my kit

More reliable than S/PDIF, even if the higher bandwidth capabilities are perhaps academic.

 

[Trekkis]

Why the clamour for usb-c? I don’t feel I’m missing anything by not having that on any of my kit

USBc is asynchronous, other types of connection are not. So usbc has in theory better quality.

 

[adias]

OP: Get a WiiM Amp, a WiiM Amp Pro or a WiiM Ultra, all with USB digital out...

Those ports are USB-A (larger, physically more reliable). Use an inexpensive USB-A to USB-c adapter.

 

[adias]

USBc is asynchronous, other types of connection are not. So usbc has in theory better quality.

Precisely. However… to hear the benefit one needs to have a DAC with a well isolated USB port and very precise clocks.

 

[QuarryHunslet]

OP: Get a WiiM Amp, a WiiM Amp Pro or a WiiM Ultra, all with USB-c digital out...

They don’t have USB-c output, they have USB-A output.

 

[adias]

They don’t have USB-c output, they have USB-A output.

Correct. You replied before I had a chance to edit my post. USB-A is not a detriment.

 

[slartibartfast]

USBc is asynchronous, other types of connection are not. So usbc has in theory better quality.

Any USB can be asynchronous, it doesn't need to be USB C.

 

[hgo58]

For Audio any USB version 2 or 3 support up to 32 bit / 768 kHz (class 2 audio) So in this case USB-C is just a matter of what cable is used.

USB Audio Class 2 standard (2009)​

USB Audio Class 2 supports 32 bit and all common sample rates > 96 kHz
Class 2 uses High Speed (480 MHz). This requires USB 2 or 3.
As the data rate of High Speed is 40 X Full speed, recording a 60 channel using 24 bits at 96 kHz (132 Mbit/s) is not a problem.

Using High Speed USB for playback there are no limits in resolution.

 

[Mr Ee]

In case it's at all useful:

Meet WiiM Ultra - The Digital Hub for Your Music

Is the USB out asynchronous?

forum.wiimhome.com