Advice on optimal setup

[Noviceaudio]

Hello Guys,

I'm trying to sort the music in my store.

I've got an amplifier that's hardwired to the store speakers. I want to purchase a device that will allow me to remotely and even from home schedule the same playlist for certain hours eg, 8-7pm then a different playlist from 7pm to 8am. I'm interested in keeping this set up the exact same every single day. Ideally I don't want to always use my personal phone and have the music constantly play from my phone.

As a result I initally wanted to just stick a USB and play but I understand that perhaps the entry models don't do this.

Can someone who really knows their stuff best advise me for a device even if it's not from this one that i bought for home that can help me achieve what i need?

 

[jfbuk]

Hi,

I think this may be possible with a Wiim apart from the remote access to edit the playlist which may be a bit more tricky.

Its a bit convoluted and I'm not sure how robust it will be as it strecthes the Wiim functionality somewhat.

1. Wiim with access to a music share (local, NAS, DLNA/UPnP server)
2. Create Wiim playlist with chosen tracks from the share
3. Assign playlist to a preset
4. Use the Wiim Alarm function to execute the preset at the chosen time. You can configure the alarm start time, duration and whether to repeat

I stress I have not actually tested this and it needs more knowledgable/experienced Wiim users to verify that this would work.

In particular, not sure what happens when an alarm executes and there is already audio playing.

 

[d6jg]

All of this can be fairly easily achieved using Lyrion.
This is a screenshot of a WiiM Pro player's Alarm settings inside Lyrion (I don't use it personally).


Typically you would run Lyrion on a Raspberry Pi using piCorePlayer connected to the router at your store with a small USB drive attached containing your music files.
As for remote connection at home (or elsewhere) use Tailscale (free for personal use). Install on the Pi and also on your smartphone.

 

[Noviceaudio]

All of this can be fairly easily achieved using Lyrion.
This is a screenshot of a WiiM Pro player's Alarm settings inside Lyrion (I don't use it personally).

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Typically you would run Lyrion on a Raspberry Pi using piCorePlayer connected to the router at your store with a small USB drive attached containing your music files.
As for remote connection at home (or elsewhere) use Tailscale (free for personal use). Install on the Pi and also on your smartphone.

Hello!

Firstly I really appreciate you taking your time to reply to this.

Please can I ask you to explain this in layman terms. I’m really sorry for the inconvenience this may cause but it’d be a fantastic help to me if you did and this is really got me stumped.

Thanks again in advance.

I

 

[d6jg]

Hello!

Firstly I really appreciate you taking your time to reply to this.

Please can I ask you to explain this in layman terms. I’m really sorry for the inconvenience this may cause but it’d be a fantastic help to me if you did and this is really got me stumped.

Thanks again in advance.

I

In the first instance try what @jfbuk has suggested. If it works great.

My suggestion isn’t really beginner level.

 

[Noviceaudio]

In the first instance try what @jfbuk has suggested. If it works great.

My suggestion isn’t really beginner level.

Hello,

You see the thing is I haven’t bought it yet.

I can’t try and as he doesn’t seem sure I don’t want to purchase one for my business and then not have it work.

As you seemed confident, I wanted to check if it’s possible.

Alternatively though, should I buy a streamer that allows USB functionality. That has an app use is that just easier for me?

 

[d6jg]

Do you have an IT geek nearby?

 

[Noviceaudio]

Unfortunately not. This forum is my only hope lol

 

[d6jg]

Let’s approach from a different direction. These two playlists
- where are you going to curate them?
- is there anything unusual about them?
- can you explain why you need two , why not one 24 hour playlist?

 

[Noviceaudio]

The two playlists will be downloaded.

Nothing unusual about them.

I want a certain playlist to play when the store is closed and a different track during opening hours.

 

[jfbuk]

Hello,

You see the thing is I haven’t bought it yet.

I can’t try and as he doesn’t seem sure I don’t want to purchase one for my business and then not have it work.

As you seemed confident, I wanted to check if it’s possible.

Alternatively though, should I buy a streamer that allows USB functionality. That has an app use is that just easier for me?

I think it will work but what you want to achieve is not what the alarm functionality (whatever the platform) is primarily designed to do.
The only way to confirm is to test it.
What will you be connecting to in order to send audio to the speakers ?

 

[Noviceaudio]

I’ll be using a nobsound amplifier.

 

[d6jg]

I think it will work but what you want to achieve is not what the alarm functionality (whatever the platform) is primarily designed to do.
The only way to confirm is to test it.
What will you be connecting to in order to send audio to the speakers ?

I also think your suggestion will work but I think it would actually be easier if the playlists were in Spotify or similar. That at least would allow them to be edited from anywhere. It would also mean no upnp/dlna server or local share required.

 

[Noviceaudio]

Do you think in that case it’s best to just have a cheap phone that I control my music from that I leave at work?

I don’t want to control music from my phone at all times that’s the only issue. But if it can’t be helped then perhaps I can just have the phone perpetually connected to a charger and leave it near the streamer

 

[jfbuk]

playlists were in Spotify

 

[jfbuk]

Do you think in that case it’s best to just have a cheap phone that I control my music from that I leave at work?

I don’t want to control music from my phone at all times that’s the only issue. But if it can’t be helped then perhaps I can just have the phone perpetually connected to a charger and leave it near the streamer

You can assign a Spotify playlist to a Wiim preset

Save Spotify playlist as a preset

You can save your favorite Spotify playlists or podcasts as presets for instant streaming. How to Save a Playlist as a Preset: 1. In Spotify App: Play your playlist. 2. Stream to WiiM Device: Use Spotify Connect to stream to your WiiM M...

faq.wiimhome.com

 

[d6jg]

I don’t think you will need to leave a phone permanently at the store. Once setup it should just work as you want.

 

[Wiimer]

I have been using 2 alarms daily for about 5 months on my Audio pro A10 mkII WiiM Edition, I have Amazon music playlists set up and they work fine most of the time.

However, if you use streaming, I think you need to consider that alarm playback may not work due to rare network or other errors. Also, when playing back music for long periods of time, there is an increased risk of the music stopping in the middle of the playback. In this respect, a physical source such as USB is more reliable.

When using streaming for alarms, it is recommended to connect the WiiM with an Ethernet cable.

 

[Noviceaudio]

I have been using 2 alarms daily for about 5 months on my Audio pro A10 mkII WiiM Edition, I have Amazon music playlists set up and they work fine most of the time.

However, if you use streaming, I think you need to consider that alarm playback may not work due to rare network or other errors. Also, when playing back music for long periods of time, there is an increased risk of the music stopping in the middle of the playback. In this respect, a physical source such as USB is more reliable.

When using streaming for alarms, it is recommended to connect the WiiM with an Ethernet cable.

Hello this is very useful.

The WIIM would be connected to an ethernet cable directly to the store internet. In that case do you think if I assign the playlist with amazon music it should just perpetually flow? And if so is there any negative impact to my phone battery if it's always running in the background.

Because I saw the bluesound node has USB stick but it's more outside my price range. However since they've got an APP would that be a more permanent solution?

 

[Noviceaudio]

I don’t think you will need to leave a phone permanently at the store. Once setup it should just work as you want.

The issue with battery consumption? I feel it'll be a lot for my phone 24/7.