Any benefit using Room Correction in an open living/kitchen area?

[Erebus]

I've been seeing a lot of discussion here regarding Room Correction, which is something I don't really understand to be honest. I have my WiiM Pro Plus and system setup in what is a combined living, dining, kitchen area that has no door closures to hallways etc. and our main listening area is diagonally across the area from the speakers. It's just the way it has to be given the layout of our unit and limited space etc.

Nevertheless, the sound is excellent and fills the area well. So I was curious if there would be any benefit or improvement in using the Room Correction feature? I have not tried it yet in case it ruins the current sound which we are very happy with. Would RC be suitable for a open area such as ours or is it more suited to enclosed rooms?

 

[Mr Ee]

the sound is excellent and fills the area well

I think that's your answer!

Do you have an actual listening space / seat? If not, possibly not much point, but you could try it anyway, you can very easily disable it again.

 

[Erebus]

you could try it anyway, you can very easily disable it again.

Thank you. I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it, hey?

 

[slartibartfast]

Thank you. I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it, hey?

Like @Mr Ee says try it. At the very least you will see the frequency response of your room . I have mine set 30-400Hz so it only affects the low end.

 

[Erebus]

I have mine set 30-400Hz so it only affects the low end.

Thank you. Unfortunately I know nothing about Hz measurements and even less about how RC works. I feel a bit of a fraud using such a wonderful piece of audio equipment without really understanding how it all works!

 

[slartibartfast]

Thank you. Unfortunately I know nothing about Hz measurements and even less about how RC works. I feel a bit of a fraud using such a wonderful piece of audio equipment without really understanding how it all works!

You will quickly learn how it works by trying it and messing around with the settings available by clicking on the cog icon

 

[Wiimer]

Thank you. Unfortunately I know nothing about Hz measurements and even less about how RC works. I feel a bit of a fraud using such a wonderful piece of audio equipment without really understanding how it all works!

I don't know much about how cars work, but I am a good driver. I just go straight on the paved road .

I'm well aware that this post is of no use to you. You're welcome .

 

[Erebus]

You're welcome

Thank you, and Happy New Year, Wimmer!

 

[Wiimer]

Thank you, and Happy New Year, Wimmer!

I wish you a very Happy New Year!

 

[scottm]

Now that someone else has confessed, I too wish to admit that I have no clue about this functionality!

As it seems to be one of the most discussed topics on here, I gave it a try. After the test I'm told to compare the yellow target curve with cyan actual, but I've no idea if the result shown is good, bad or indifferent.
What I see is the cyan line climbs to meet the yellow around the 50 value, then the lines roughly mirror each other until just before 8k when the cyan line takes off before falling back somewhat. I'd love to know what this indicates.

I'll add that I notice no difference in sound before or after using the feature.

 

[MCG555]

I've been seeing a lot of discussion here regarding Room Correction, which is something I don't really understand to be honest. I have my WiiM Pro Plus and system setup in what is a combined living, dining, kitchen area that has no door closures to hallways etc. and our main listening area is diagonally across the area from the speakers. It's just the way it has to be given the layout of our unit and limited space etc.

Nevertheless, the sound is excellent and fills the area well. So I was curious if there would be any benefit or improvement in using the Room Correction feature? I have not tried it yet in case it ruins the current sound which we are very happy with. Would RC be suitable for a open area such as ours or is it more suited to enclosed rooms?

Sure! It can make sense!
I have a similar setup - large loft-like flat.
I did RC for the primary listening position - however, the whole room accoustic improved!

Just give it a try, you always can go back to the original setting.

More to what I did - here… https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/how-to-use-room-correction.3783/

 

[Erebus]

More to what I did

Thank you. There is a lot to read, but in all honesty I have very little understanding of what it does, how it will affect my setup or how to get it back to how it was if something goes wrong.

 

[slartibartfast]

Thank you. There is a lot to read, but in all honesty I have very little understanding of what it does, how it will affect my setup or how to get it back to how it was if something goes wrong.

To disable it just turn off PEQ.

 

[Hazenhart]

I have a similar setup on my main floor, where there is no real primary listening position. It's background music for our primary living space.
I used the room correction feature to get clearer picture of how my system responded in the room, and then created a custom PEQ curve. I think the results sound significantly better.

I took ~10 measurements at various locations around the area using the the room correction process. I took screen captures of the results (curves and PEQ settings) every time. I then sat down and put it all manually into a spreadsheet.

From here I looked for and took note of any patterns (consistent lows or highs). Then I more or less calculated average frequency points and db adjustments for each point within the spreadsheet and plugged those into a custom PEQ curve. I checked the results against my notes, made some more manual tweaks, and then listened for a few days. I made some minor adjustments following this, but overall it worked well.

 

[Erebus]

. I then sat down and put it all manually into a spreadsheet.

Gosh! I take my hat off to you for your expertise and knowledge.

 

[MCG555]

Gosh! I take my hat off to you for your expertise and knowledge.

It does not need lots of expertise. It‘s learning by doing…
And as Slartybartfast wrote, if you don‘t like it, it´s a toggle switch back to your setting…

 

[Hazenhart]

It does not need lots of expertise. It‘s learning by doing…
And as Slartybartfast wrote, if you don‘t like it, it´s a toggle switch back to your setting…

Agreed. In my case it is definitely less expertise and more diligence. I am also in the camp of those that believe "if it sounds good to you then it is good."

For me I was trying to get a curve that worked well-enough everywhere, hence a bunch of measurements. For example, my sofa is against the wall (and immediately above the subwoofer), and the low frequencies are accentuated. Conversely the hard surfaces in the kitchen sound "bright." My lengthy process was intended to find a happy balance. I think it worked.

@Erebus could just run Room Correction a couple times, look at the curves, and see if there are any notable dips or peaks that are common across both instances, and the experiment with manual PEQ adjustments. Or just use the RC output as-is.

 

[dtc]

I have a similar setup on my main floor, where there is no real primary listening position. It's background music for our primary living space.
I used the room correction feature to get clearer picture of how my system responded in the room, and then created a custom PEQ curve. I think the results sound significantly better.

I took ~10 measurements at various locations around the area using the the room correction process. I took screen captures of the results (curves and PEQ settings) every time. I then sat down and put it all manually into a spreadsheet.

From here I looked for and took note of any patterns (consistent lows or highs). Then I more or less calculated average frequency points and db adjustments for each point within the spreadsheet and plugged those into a custom PEQ curve. I checked the results against my notes, made some more manual tweaks, and then listened for a few days. I made some minor adjustments following this, but overall it worked well.

Many AVRs do a multi-point process like that as part of their setup. A 2 channel solution should be simpler than the multi-speaker setup that AVRs have to do. Open living spaces are pretty common these days and they are often pretty bright with sound deadening features not all that easy to install. Maybe multi-point room correction is a future development for Wiim to consider.

 

[MCG555]

Many AVRs do a multi-point process like that as part of their setup. A 2 channel solution should be simpler than the multi-speaker setup that AVRs have to do. Open living spaces are pretty common these days and they are often pretty bright with sound deadening features not all that easy to install. Maybe multi-point room correction should be a future development for Wiim to consider.

(Maybe) multi-point room correction should be a future development for Wiim to consider.