Apple Music iTunes library

[SPeck]

Hi All, I’m new to this! I can only see/play a small portion of my iTune collection. System does not seem able to see te rest of the tracks? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! WiiM Home

 

[Minty]

Hi All, I’m new to this! I can only see/play a small portion of my iTune collection. System does not seem able to see te rest of the tracks? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! WiiM Home

What are you using as the source, and how are you connecting it to your WiiM device?

I note you are not using Apple Music,

 

[Burnside]

Where is your iTunes library, and does it contain any protected DRM tracks?

 

[SPeck]

What are you using as the source, and how are you connecting it to your WiiM device?

I note you are not using Apple Music,

Source is my iPhone. I connect via wifi

 

[SPeck]

Where is your iTunes library, and does it contain any protected DRM tracks?

Library is in my iPhone which I connect via WiFi. How would I check if files are protected?

 

[Burnside]

I’m not entirely sure, I’d need to do some research.

Leaving WiiM aside for a moment, what app do you use on your phone to play your tracks? Normally the WiiM app will see every local file that the iOS Music app does.

 

[Groove Catcher]

I believe Apple removed the DRM protection around 2009. So if you have music that you purchased before that time you might run into problems. I’m not 100% positive but anything after 2009 you should be good.

 

[SPeck]

I’m not entirely sure, I’d need to do some research.

Leaving WiiM aside for a moment, what app do you use on your phone to play your tracks? Normally the WiiM app will see every local file that the iOS Music app does.

I use the WiiM app. It doesn’t seem to see all the files, only the same 20 or so. None of the files (tracks) are older than probably 2014 ish.

 

[SPeck]

I believe Apple removed the DRM protection around 2009. So if you have music that you purchased before that time you might run into problems. I’m not 100% positive but anything after 2009 you should be good.

I use the WiiM app. It doesn’t seem to see all the files, only the same 20 or so. None of the files (tracks) are older than probably 2014 ish.

 

[Minty]

Source is my iPhone. I connect via wifi

Unfortunately I don’t have any experience using the iPhone as a source other than using it with AirPods and CarPlay.

I use a cheap NAS drive to stream my iTunes library to the WiiM units. It works fine other than the album artwork doesn’t show up on the Ultra. It shows up fine on the WiiM app. I have the library backed up onto other drives incase the NAS fails.

Good luck, I hope you can get it sorted?

 

[Eddie Spaghetti]

I had an issue similar to this a while back synching my library across Apple devices. If you have an older iTunes ID, there’s a good chance it’s different from your Apple ID.

First, check the settings on your iPhone to see if your ID being used for purchases is the same as your Apple ID (Settings > your name > Media & Purchases). It will probably show you your iTunes ID and ask for that password. If it’s different from your Apple ID, the Media & Purchases ID is the one you need to use to log into Apple Music in the WiiM Home app, and you should then see your entire library.

I never did figure out how to bring my iTunes purchases under my Apple ID, which would make things so much easier dealing with media and anything related to the App Store. Probably needs a lengthy phone call with Apple support. But I’ll bet a dollar that’s your problem.

 

[Buryme2wice]

I still manage my music mainly via Itunes with a weekly refresh to the phone. Just checked via the WHA vs the total songs listed in the "about" section in settings. There's a 40 track difference (lower in WHA) for some reason.

Personally using Airplay via Wiim AMP and the native Music app so not an issue for me but interesting to note.

Unfortunately don't have the time to run through 4000+ tracks to try & compare & identify what tracks are missing

 

[Eddie Spaghetti]

I use the WiiM app. It doesn’t seem to see all the files, only the same 20 or so. None of the files (tracks) are older than probably 2014 ish.

I think my post above (#11) might be confusing, because I made some assumptions that are just flat out wrong. But I still think it has something to do with the ID’s you’re using to sign into Apple Music. How exactly are you using the WiiM Home app to “see all the files”?

 

[Burnside]

I think my post above (#11) might be confusing, because I made some assumptions that are just flat out wrong. But I still think it has something to do with the ID’s you’re using to sign into Apple Music. How exactly are you using the WiiM Home app to “see all the files”?

In terms of iOS devices and their sandboxed approach, the WiiM app only sees what’s in the shared music area I.e what the iOS Music app sees. It would be useful if the OP compared the Music app and the WiiM home app to see what the differences are.

 

[Eddie Spaghetti]

In terms of iOS devices and their sandboxed approach, the WiiM app only sees what’s in the shared music area I.e what the iOS Music app sees. It would be useful if the OP compared the Music app and the WiiM home app to see what the differences are.

I’m lost here … where/how in the WiiM app can you see the Apple Music library? When I switch the input source to WiFi, there’s no Apple option. Last I heard is there’s no native Apple Music support, and only a handful of WiiM devices support AirPlay. What am I missing?

 

[Groove Catcher]

I’m lost here … where/how in the WiiM app can you see the Apple Music library? When I switch the input source to WiFi, there’s no Apple option. Last I heard is there’s no native Apple Music support, and only a handful of WiiM devices support AirPlay. What am I missing?

If you have the Apple Music iOS app you can allow WiiM to see it under My Music.

 

[Burnside]

I’m lost here … where/how in the WiiM app can you see the Apple Music library? When I switch the input source to WiFi, there’s no Apple option. Last I heard is there’s no native Apple Music support, and only a handful of WiiM devices support AirPlay. What am I missing?

Note I carefully said the iOS Music app, not mentioning Apple Music

The My Music option in the WiiM home app will display audio files it finds on your iPhone/ipad which translates (in my experience) to the handful of files I synced from my PC iTunes library to test access from the WiiM app. The WiiM app won’t see any files the Music app doesn’t see, so if you have them elsewhere on your iPhone, in Files or elsewhere, they won’t be picked up.

 

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Note I carefully said the iOS Music app, not mentioning Apple Music

The My Music option in the WiiM home app will display audio files it finds on your iPhone/ipad which translates (in my experience) to the handful of files I synced from my PC iTunes library to test access from the WiiM app. The WiiM app won’t see any files the Music app doesn’t see, so if you have them elsewhere on your iPhone, in Files or elsewhere, they won’t be picked up.

Interesting. I always considered Music and Apple Music to be one and the same, but the former is really just the interface to access the contents of the latter. Anyway … my Music app has a crap-ton of albums in my library (all in the cloud, nothing is physically on my phone), but only one album shows up under My Music in the WiiM app. Oh, look, that one album IS on my phone - I must have inadvertently downloaded it. But I find Music easy enough to navigate and just Bluetooth from my phone, so I haven’t really been wanting for an alternative.

But I guess the question for @SPeck is, are you sure your entire library is physically on your phone? You can see in the Music app when you display the album - in the upper right corner, a check mark will indicate that it’s been saved on the device, a down-pointing arrow means it’s in your library but not on your device.

 

[Burnside]

Interesting. I always considered Music and Apple Music to be one and the same, but the former is really just the interface to access the contents of the latter. Anyway … my Music app has a crap-ton of albums in my library (all in the cloud, nothing is physically on my phone), but only one album shows up under My Music in the WiiM app. Oh, look, that one album IS on my phone - I must have inadvertently downloaded it. But I find Music easy enough to navigate and just Bluetooth from my phone, so I haven’t really been wanting for an alternative.

But I guess the question for @SPeck is, are you sure your entire library is physically on your phone? You can see in the Music app when you display the album - in the upper right corner, a check mark will indicate that it’s been saved on the device, a down-pointing arrow means it’s in your library but not on your device.

Personally I see Apple Music as the streaming service, and ITunes as a local library with the Music app as the common control point. And as you suggest, perhaps the OP hasn’t synced his iCloud/iTunes library with his iPhone in order for files to be downloaded to his device as I did with a couple albums to test playback on my WiiM.

 

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Personally I see Apple Music as the streaming service, and ITunes as a local library with the Music app as the common control point. And as you suggest, perhaps the OP hasn’t synced his iCloud/iTunes library with his iPhone in order for files to be downloaded to his device as I did with a couple albums to test playback on my WiiM.

I’ve been kind of half wondering what it would take to download my music library to a central data store that I could stream to the Amp Ultra over WiFi, but I don’t know enough about the tech, and it would probably end up being a bigger investment than it would ever be worth, if it’s even doable without replacing my whole home network. Having everything in the cloud and accessible from any Apple device is so damn easy and convenient, and it all sounds satisfyingly good. Why would I mess with that.