Burn In - Pro Plus

[D1N0]

Which AI engine has generated it?

Gtp-4

 

[onlyoneme]

Gtp-4

So
"The concept of capacitor burn-in is generally considered a myth. Capacitors are manufactured to precise specifications and their performance is stable over time. Modern capacitors are designed for long lifespans and shouldn't require a break-in period to achieve optimal performance."

Another AI model.

 

[Smartplug]

Burn in is another form of snake oil nonsense.

 

[cooky560]

The burn in time depends, for me it was about 30 seconds, but how quick are you at taking things out of the box?

 

[D1N0]

So
"The concept of capacitor burn-in is generally considered a myth. Capacitors are manufactured to precise specifications and their performance is stable over time. Modern capacitors are designed for long lifespans and shouldn't require a break-in period to achieve optimal performance."

Another AI model.

One that hasn't exclude ASR yet I guess.

Burn in is another form of snake oil nonsense.

If it were snake oil it would cost you a lot of money

 

[onlyoneme]

One that hasn't exclude ASR yet I guess.

So let's look on this:

"The concept of "burn-in" for capacitors, or any electronic component, refers to the process of operating the component for a certain period of time before it is used in its intended application. This is done with the belief that it will improve the component's performance or reliability.


However, the idea of burn-in for capacitors is largely considered a myth for several reasons.

1. No Scientific Basis: There is no scientific evidence or theoretical basis to suggest that burn-in improves the performance or reliability of capacitors. The performance of a capacitor is determined by its physical properties and design, which do not change with use.
2. No Observable Changes: Unlike some electronic components, such as vacuum tubes or speakers, capacitors do not undergo any physical changes during operation that could potentially improve their performance.
3. Potential for Damage: In fact, operating a capacitor for an extended period of time without a load can actually cause damage. This is because capacitors can build up heat when they are operated, which can lead to degradation of the component.
4. Manufacturer Testing: Most manufacturers already perform extensive testing on their capacitors before they are sold. This includes operating the capacitors under a variety of conditions to ensure their reliability.

In conclusion, the idea of burn-in for capacitors is largely a myth. While it is true that some electronic components can benefit from a burn-in period, capacitors are not among them. Instead, the best way to ensure the performance and reliability of a capacitor is to purchase from a reputable manufacturer and use the component within its specified operating conditions."

 

[Smartplug]

One that hasn't exclude ASR yet I guess.



If it were snake oil it would cost you a lot of money

I’m not going to mention a brand but this brand sells cable that cost arm and leg and people who buy them swear hear night and day difference. Measurements between hanger and exotic cable show fraction of difference.

 

[Smartplug]

But at least the "nonsense" part is for free ;-)

 

[Smartplug]

The only thing that is getting burn in is your wallet and your brain while the brand who sold it to you made large profit.

 

[D1N0]

Measurements between hanger and exotic cable show fraction of difference.

Makes you wonder on how accurate measurements are for testing audio fidelity.

 

[cooky560]

While streamers are not the same as other parts in the chain, I will say that the WiiM streamer box consists of a processor, some ram, some I/O and a DAC, it is in effect a computer motherboard.

My computer has the same performance score in benchmark tests after 3 years of near 24/7 use as it did on the day it was built. If 3 years isn't enough "burn in" time, nothing is.

 

[Smartplug]

To me, burn in test if equipment is reliable and dependable on long term and not to improve performance. I’m sure many of you would argue but that’s just me. I agree with @onlyoneme with his explanation 100 percent.

 

[onlyoneme]

you would have had a better life than a non-believer.

I don't get it. We are all believers, we just don't believe in the same things.

 

[benserv02]

Capacitor burn-in is a myth, capacitors degrade over time, capacitors do not improve overtime because of heat. Its the 2nd law of thermodynamics, the concept of entropy. Over time capacitors degrade and you need to replace them before it explodes

 

[D1N0]

The true myth is that measurements can measure what my auditory system can perceive. Measurements are very superficial tools that are useful when tuning a system, but no way to determine what gear to buy. The sound a system produces needs to connect with you auditory system and that is a much more advanced device for measuring true sound quality than an electronics device that can only look at aspects, not the entire sound image.

 

[Smartplug]

Found a quote from Woody Allen, which fits my opinion to 100%. Sadly I wasn't smart enough to say that. Let people do what they like. Written by a snake oil skeptic but highly endangered person who still throws out money for obvious nonsense. But I love to do so and it doesn't hurt others.

"If you can delude yourself by believing that there is some kind of Santa Claus out there who is going to bail you out in the end, then it will help you get through. Even if you are proven wrong in the end, you would have had a better life than a non-believer."
(Woody Allen)

I’m sure you will post that you and I can agree on but not this one. Our path will cross someday that I will agree with you.

 

[onlyoneme]

The true myth is that measurements can measure what my auditory system can perceive. Measurements are very superficial tools that are useful when tuning a system, but no way to determine what gear to buy. The sound a system produces needs to connect with you auditory system and that is a much more advanced device for measuring true sound quality than an electronics device that can only look at aspects, not the entire sound image.

The very common form of measurement in audio is the quantization process and the AD conversion in general.

 

[FerengiROA]

An example for too long burnt-in capacitors ;-)

View attachment 6834

Those would make nice targets at the gun range.

 

[Malkie]

 

[cooky560]

I wouldn't trust the life of any component that changes after just 100 hours of use, most components are rated for 100,000 hours or more at lower temps.

I don't want them to change every 100 hours of that!