Difference between WiFi and Ethernet

Because I am still member of the companies Intranet, our paranoid IT anarchists insist in running always actual routers. May be they have a secret deal with AVM 😉
But back to serious: For security reasons, yes. For "audiophile" reasons: Braunschweig!
 
Absolutely. Routers are not made for audiophiles. With routers, you tend to get what you pay for.
have you seen the prices of the WiFi 7 routers? 700GBP for the asus ROG one. absolutely ridiculous. like what's in that thing? solid gold heatsink? wtaf? 🤯

tp-link as well is selling their WiFi 7 routers (tri-band) for insanely inflated prices compared to the models in china (admittedly dual-band since 6GHz is not available for public use there atm)...
 
have you seen the prices of the WiFi 7 routers? 700GBP for the asus ROG one. absolutely ridiculous. like what's in that thing? solid gold heatsink? wtaf? 🤯

tp-link as well is selling their WiFi 7 routers (tri-band) for insanely inflated prices compared to the models in china (admittedly dual-band since 6GHz is not available for public use there atm)...
I have an eero with two range extenders. Haven’t had a dropout in three years. I have weekend guests that do home schooling with Zoom, home office with Citrix, streaming video. Currently about $350 at Amazon.

The rental from the internet provider crapped out with more than half a dozen users.

I don’t know how much you need to spend. It depends on the size and shape of your home, and how many devices you have.
 
I have an eero with two range extenders. Haven’t had a dropout in three years. I have weekend guests that do home schooling with Zoom, home office with Citrix, streaming video. Currently about $350 at Amazon.

The rental from the internet provider crapped out with more than half a dozen users.

I don’t know how much you need to spend. It depends on the size and shape of your home, and how many devices you have.
yeh, true... my setup on wifi 5 (AC) is working fine but I was just thinking about a router upgrade and hoping to leapfrog Wi-Fi 6/6E entirely and go straight to tri-band Wi-Fi 7 (+ 2.5 GbE) cos a lot of the phones and laptops going forward will support 7.

tri-band (combined with multi-link operation/MLO) is the main draw - just because of so much congestion on 2.4 and 5 GHz bands these days... But I think we're going to have to wait a while for manufacturers (come on AVM!! 😤) to release new models + the prices to come down...

As for using eero or any other garbage crapware that Amazon puts out. No thanks... especially not my bloody router - i'd rather take any internet provider's proprietary router tbh. but imo the best option is a router with solid firmware options - fritz or open source 🤔
 

that's just a list of open source software that they used to build their closed-source software which they publish as part of their own internal "open source compliance" policies.... the devices themselves are completely locked down.

many people don't understand that their iPhones and stuff wouldn't be possible without open source software. and that the original creators of most of the technological innovations in software rarely get paid for their pioneering work.

it's the biggest deception of silicon valley. just repackage work that others did for free - put your company's name on it - and hey presto! your company's blitzscaling to its first million users and it's valued in the billions 😋
 
Spatch....need to thank you for starting this thread.

I no longer post on here because of the abuse I get from the non-believers, but still lurk to keep updated with what Wiim is doing.
Your thread caught my eye because of the posting regarding the 'throttle-cable' reference someone mentioned as a joke. I recall the posting cherry-picked part of the blog to fit in with the ASR agenda. This piqued my interest and made me investigate the thread by a German dude, Eric, who has an electronics background and has done a series of tests on Ethernet connections. The poster scoffed at Eric's quote regarding the sonic change the effect of this throttle cable had on his listening experience, but left out the bit that the 'quote' was translated to English from German. Also, they did not point out that visible oscilloscope measurements that were taken by Eric showing the effectiveness of the throttle cable at reducing noise and jitter. Eric arrived at the final design of this throttle cable after a series of 4/5 experiments he tried.....and measured.... that were ineffective.

So, this type of mod was right up my alley....cheap and easy to try. My take on Eric's design:
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I wont go into the description of the sonic effect this has had on my sound system as that would be a total waste on this forum. Suffice it to say this has totally satisfied my cognitive bias and that of a half-dozen of my hi-fi buddies that have tried it!

Thanks again Spatch!
 
Spatch....need to thank you for starting this thread.

I no longer post on here because of the abuse I get from the non-believers, but still lurk to keep updated with what Wiim is doing.
Your thread caught my eye because of the posting regarding the 'throttle-cable' reference someone mentioned as a joke. I recall the posting cherry-picked part of the blog to fit in with the ASR agenda. This piqued my interest and made me investigate the thread by a German dude, Eric, who has an electronics background and has done a series of tests on Ethernet connections. The poster scoffed at Eric's quote regarding the sonic change the effect of this throttle cable had on his listening experience, but left out the bit that the 'quote' was translated to English from German. Also, they did not point out that visible oscilloscope measurements that were taken by Eric showing the effectiveness of the throttle cable at reducing noise and jitter. Eric arrived at the final design of this throttle cable after a series of 4/5 experiments he tried.....and measured.... that were ineffective.

So, this type of mod was right up my alley....cheap and easy to try. My take on Eric's design:
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I wont go into the description of the sonic effect this has had on my sound system as that would be a total waste on this forum. Suffice it to say this has totally satisfied my cognitive bias and that of a half-dozen of my hi-fi buddies that have tried it!

Thanks again Spatch!
very nice! you actually went to the ethernet-sound forums and went through to building your own throttle cable?? 🤝 + you even shared it with your mates IRL. 👏 that really warms the heart... eric + the lads over there are really open-minded and their motivation to get to an objective level of proof is impressive. i did try to see past the jokes from @FreakyKiwi ( :) ROFLMAO thanks for the entertainment) and point the discussion towards the objective evidence and the fact that there is nobody really making any money off these ideas/practical implementations - but it's cool... some just automatically label everything they don't understand as premium snake oil 🤷‍♂️

don't worry about the naysayers/haters man (i'm joking ofc - you're free to disagree), i actually want to hear the worst criticisms of our ideas - as long as it's respectful and pertains to the topic at hand without descending into name-calling etc. it helps us figure out the limitations of our own opinions and take stock of how strongly we hold our opinions on such matters.

+ please don't lump our hallowed WiiM forums with other dogmatic corners of the internet. you should not actively hold back from posting imo. here we celebrate differences in opinion - as that is what gives colour to life and discussions, no? 🤔 (at least that's how it is most of the time - until @Brantome is forced to do another midnight drive-by and secretly censor speech etc 😆)

besides, it's up to us more experimental idiots to take the criticism. we have to take the it on the chin!
 
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Thanks but I had little to do with it, I am just a person that likes exploring rabbit holes, as you never know what you might find (just ask Alice about chasing white rabbits).
I agree it's nice seeing people investigate with a open mind and having the measurements to match their subjective experience.
 
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