Grouped speakers need to Automatically "Ungroup" if they need to.

[conn]

This has always been an annoyance for a few reasons but here's one example.

I have a WiiM edition Audio Pro (A10 MKII) that has a weekday alarm for 8am to play music (mellow Jazz for my Dog )...

Anyway, over the weekend I had this speakers as the "main" or first speaker in a group of about 4 other speakers and some had the volumes up a bit. So come Monday morning the alarm went off and played through all the grouped speakers, some of which were loud... I of course was not home but my wife called me to ask why the hell speakers were blasting jazz music and how to stop it, lol.... I believe Sonos had a feature called "Auto ungroup on autoplay" or something like that.

We need more control over the multiroom aspects of this system. I'm really surprised that persistent L & R speaker >PAIR< assignment for a group is still not a thing yet with WiiM, to me it's basic multi-room/ whole home audio feature... Is it patented by only Sonos or something? Even Denon HEOS has this...

I feel like WiiM is neglecting the multiroom or "whole home audio" smarts as I've seen no improvements or added features within the last year.

 

[Wiimer]

This is my problem that is very similar.

I have 3 devices
Living Room - Wiim Amp (I believe this is set to the leader device)
Kitchen -Wiim Pro
Office - Wiim Pro

I have them grouped as "Apartment Devices" .... If I use Spotify and to "Apartment Devices" everything works, no problem. I stop playing to Spotify and sit down to watch TV with the HDMI ARC on the Amp.... it is still sending ARC audio to "Apartment Devices" ... I have to manually go in and break the connection.

What I would LIKE to happen is ARC is only played out of the Living Room Amp.

Does this have to do with what device I set as leader?

Thanks

Please try changing the WiiM Amp to "Follower". When listening to music on Spotify, you can play it in a persistent group.

Then, when you turn on the TV, the Amp’s input will automatically switch to HDMI, and once audio starts playing from the Amp to the TV, the group should automatically unlink.

If you then play Spotify again in the persistent group, the group will automatically link.

 

[conn]

This is my problem that is very similar.

I have 3 devices
Living Room - Wiim Amp (I believe this is set to the leader device)
Kitchen -Wiim Pro
Office - Wiim Pro

I have them grouped as "Apartment Devices" .... If I use Spotify and to "Apartment Devices" everything works, no problem. I stop playing to Spotify and sit down to watch TV with the HDMI ARC on the Amp.... it is still sending ARC audio to "Apartment Devices" ... I have to manually go in and break the connection.

What I would LIKE to happen is ARC is only played out of the Living Room Amp.

Does this have to do with what device I set as leader?

Thanks

Yeah, unfortunately Wiim doesn't handle grouping properly.... Everything is always "it's in beta" related to grouping or persistent grouping settings....I said it before, they need to auto ungroup after use or at least have a setting to do this, very basic stuff.

 

[rubato]

In my personal opinion, unlike Sonos, which started out as a smart speaker, WiiM has its roots in streaming devices. So, to be honest, I think that’s why it hasn’t prioritized features specifically designed for stereo pair group up until now.

Sonos' first product was an amplified streaming box, the ZonePlayer or ZP100 in 2004, followed shortly after by an unamplified version later called the ZP80 or Connect. They didn't bring out an integrated speaker until the ZonePlayer S5 in 2009, five years later. I don't have any insight into the development process at either company, but I don't think that explains the difference.

For what it's worth, when you combine two Sonos speakers into a stereo pair, they appear to the rest of the system as a single unit, and it can only interact with them as a unit until you unpair them again. But you can only pair identical speakers: originally only two S5s, later two Play:3s, etc. This removes the need to adjust the volume independently.

 

[Wiimer]

Sonos' first product was an amplified streaming box, the ZonePlayer or ZP100 in 2004, followed shortly after by an unamplified version later called the ZP80 or Connect. They didn't bring out an integrated speaker until the ZonePlayer S5 in 2009, five years later. I don't have any insight into the development process at either company, but I don't think that explains the difference.

For what it's worth, when you combine two Sonos speakers into a stereo pair, they appear to the rest of the system as a single unit, and it can only interact with them as a unit until you unpair them again. But you can only pair identical speakers: originally only two S5s, later two Play:3s, etc. This removes the need to adjust the volume independently.

You’re right, but what I’m trying to say is, “It hasn’t prioritized features specifically designed for stereo pair groups until now.”

I wasn't arguing with the OP's post.

 

[rubato]

I think of stereo pairing and multiroom grouping as entirely different things. I change my multiroom groupings all the time, depending on what I'm doing at the moment. But when I set up speakers in a room as a pair, it's as a permanent fixture, same as any other stereo speakers. Perhaps with portable speakers, where you're always moving them anyway, it would be different. I have no experience doing that.

 

[Wiimer]

I think of stereo pairing and multiroom grouping as entirely different things.

Yes, the team designed them as separate entities. As a result, it’s no longer possible to include the stereo pair into other group. I find this very disappointing.