I would like Wiim pro plus to become JPLAY Certified

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I would like Wiim pro plus to become JPLAY Certified since I heavily use JPLAY app. Eversolo became recently …

 

[hgo58]

Why you think it is nonsense ? Any arguments ?

It would require that the app running on your PC or phone changes the data streamed from the provider directly to the player (WiiM). That's not possible.
To change the sound it requires that the data is changed and in an intelligent way (DSP).

 

[Chopin]

Quite sure "advantages" CAN be reached with JPLAY running as server software (like Roon, Audirvana or LMS) on a computer accompanied by the JPLAY app. That an app alone is able to improve sound quality would be mystic in my opinion.

 

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1. Network Traffic Management:
- JPLAY iOS could optimize network packet timing and buffering
- It may reduce network jitter by implementing precise packet scheduling
- Could minimize network protocol overhead by streamlining data transmission

2. CPU Load Management:
- Efficient data handling could reduce processing requirements on the streamer
- Optimized buffering strategies might minimize CPU spikes
- Better memory management could reduce system interrupts

 

[hgo58]

1. Network Traffic Management:
- JPLAY iOS could optimize network packet timing and buffering
- It may reduce network jitter by implementing precise packet scheduling
- Could minimize network protocol overhead by streamlining data transmission

2. CPU Load Management:
- Efficient data handling could reduce processing requirements on the streamer
- Optimized buffering strategies might minimize CPU spikes
- Better memory management could reduce system interrupts

1) Even if that was possible it would not change the sound in any way. Network timing or jitter has nothing to do with the digital audio data. The data load from audio data is low compared to what even a 2G wifi network can handle.

2) An remote app cannot manage a streamers CPU and even if it could it will not change the sound.

 

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1) Even if that was possible it would not change the sound in any way. Network timing or jitter has nothing to do with the digital audio data. The data load from audio data is low compared to what ever a 2G wifi network can handle.

2) An remote app cannot manage a streamer CPU and even if it could it will not change the sound.

You are wrong …

 

[hgo58]

You are wrong …

How?

 

[steadyshot]

Anyway guys whatever you want

 

[hgo58]

Anyway guys whatever you want

Just trying to prevent people from getting cheated by scams.

 

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Just trying to prevent people from getting cheated by scams.

Ok…

 

[dtc]

Some history : JPlay was originally developed by an individual to be used with JRiver Media Center. The premise was that if you could decrease the electrical noise and the interrupts in a PC , that would increase the sound quality of the system. The optimization was done by stopping any unneeded processes and minimizing any activity that might cause electrical noise or interrupts. JRiver did not subscribe to that premise and did not like that the name that seemed to tread on JRiver's name. JRiver eventually blocked JPlay for working with its software. Then, the JPlay author set out to make his optimization tool into a full fledged player with an emphasis on its optimizations.

Now, do the JPlay optimizations make any difference? Some say yes, some say no. This is an old discussion and I doubt anything will be added here to resolve those differences of opinions. But, JPlay does have its following, so it seems like a legitimate request for Wiim to consider supporting certifying it. JRiver decided not to. Wiim can make the same decision - or not.

 

[Burnside]

… so it seems like a legitimate request for Wiim to consider supporting it.

Isn’t WiiM already supported by dint of being a UPnP renderer? I thought the issue here was one of “certification”

 

[slartibartfast]

Some history : JPlay was originally developed by an individual to be used with JRiver Media Center. The premise was that if you could decrease the electrical noise and the interrupts in a PC , that would increase the sound quality of the system. The optimization was done by stopping any unneeded processes and minimizing any activity that might cause electrical noise or interrupts. JRiver did not subscribe to that premise and did not like that the name that seemed to tread on JRiver's name. JRiver eventually blocked JPlay for working with its software. Then, the JPlay author set out to make his optimization tool into a full fledged player with an emphasis on its optimizations.

Now, do the JPlay optimizations make any difference? Some say yes, some say no. This is an old discussion and I doubt anything will be added here to resolve those differences of opinions. But, JPlay does have its following, so it seems like a legitimate request for Wiim to consider supporting it. JRiver decided not to. Wiim can make the same decision - or not.

Does it cost WiiM anything to be a partner?

 

[dtc]

Isn’t WiiM already supported by dint of being a UPnP renderer? I thought the issue here was one of “certification”

OK. Changed.

 

[slartibartfast]

Isn’t WiiM already supported by dint of being a UPnP renderer? I thought the issue here was one of “certification”

Indeed, it is hard to tell what certified means apart from being listed on the JPlay website.

 

[Chopin]

Isn’t WiiM already supported by dint of being a UPnP renderer? I thought the issue here was one of “certification”

Thats exactly what I do not understand. With my Pro JPLAY is gapless and the app and my DAC show correct resolution. For the supported streaming AND for my stored music on hard disks. May be any specialist can explain me what "certification" in this case means. May be it is a misunderstanding with JPLAY as server software and the JPLAY app?

 

[dtc]

Indeed, it is hard to tell what certified means apart from being listed on the JPlay website.

Probably a matter of testing.

 

[Burnside]

Maybe we’ll see BubbleUPnP chasing certification too

Like others, I don’t see what certification would bring if WiiM already works with the app and any tuning to minimise network traffic and its supposed resultant benefit on the renderer is in the hands of the control app

 

[dtc]

Maybe we’ll see BubbleUPnP chasing certification too

Like others, I don’t see what certification would bring if WiiM already works with the app and any tuning to minimise network traffic and its supposed resultant benefit on the renderer is in the hands of the control app

Certification probably just means that the two applications have been test by the companies to be sure they work together and also probably an assurance that any future compatibility issues are addressed.

It brings the Wiim name to a group who may not be aware of its products. Without it, JPlay users may consider Eversolo products rather than Wiim.

Being associated with companies like Weiss, Bricasti, Hegel, dcs, MSB might help elevate their status.

Game changer - no. Nice to have - maybe.

 

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So for those that did not see the certified list some big brands that are currently certified …

1. dCS
2. Hegel
3. Antipodes
4. Bricasti
5. Weiss
6. MSB
7. Eversolo

 

[steadyshot]

Maybe we’ll see BubbleUPnP chasing certification too

Like others, I don’t see what certification would bring if WiiM already works with the app and any tuning to minimise network traffic and its supposed resultant benefit on the renderer is in the hands of the control app

I have already mentioned that I get occasional errors and it is also the possibility for even further enhancement .