Openhome UPnP

[MarmiteSandwich]

Openhome extension to UPnP please.

 

[amix]

From the link you posted, it seems to be incompatible with generic DLNA.

 

[simbun]

From the link you posted, it seems to be incompatible with generic DLNA.

It's an extension to UPnP. A renderer can support both.

 

[amix]

It's an extension to UPnP. A renderer can support both.

So, this would then be a mode switch for those, who use it?

The main difference is that with OpenHome it's the streamer (aka renderer) that owns the current playlist; whereas with standard UPnP/DLNA it's the controller (aka

 

[simbun]

So, this would then be a mode switch for those, who use it?

It could be, or it could advertise both. Personally I'd prefer to be able to disable all the interfaces i don't use.

With BubbleUPnP Server you can proxy the WiiM renderer to add OpenHome capability (which I'm sure @MarmiteSandwich is aware of), but it does require an OpenHome compatible control point.

 

[MarmiteSandwich]

Yes, I use the BubbleUPnP Server, but it is an unwanted complication.

 

[r2d2]

Would like to have it as well, Openhome support would be a nice addition. It extends and fixes some of the problems of UPnP https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli/pages/upmpdcli-manual.html#UPNP

Moreover, Wiim should add mpd to their appliance
Which enables a a very large list of clients and integrations

 

[Burnside]

Would like to have it as well, Openhome support would be a nice addition. It extends and fixes some of the problems of UPnP https://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli/pages/upmpdcli-manual.html#UPNP

Moreover, Wiim should add mpd to their appliance
Which enables a a very large list of clients and integrations

If mpd is a "server-side application" according to its webpage, how does that sit with WiiM devices which aren't servers, but players?

 

[cc_rider]

If mpd is a "server-side application" according to its webpage, how does that sit with WiiM devices which aren't servers, but players?

Clients for the Music Player Daemon

I don’t think WiiM should go this way, though. It already supports the protocols the vast majority uses, and this would simply add complexity and support issues.

 

[Burnside]

Clients for the Music Player Daemon

I don’t think WiiM should go this way, though. It already supports the protocols the vast majority uses, and this would simply add complexity and support issues.

Ah, names that all trip off the tongue - it's like reading a 1970's unix manual

No thanks...

 

[r2d2]

Clients for the Music Player Daemon

I don’t think WiiM should go this way, though. It already supports the protocols the vast majority uses, and this would simply add complexity and support issues.

Despite all protocols and clients, there is no good way to control playback from iOS.

 

[simbun]

Despite all protocols and clients, there is no good way to control playback from iOS.

Have you tried Lyrion?

Whilst the native interface (web based) isn't particularly modern, there are other iOS apps available e.g. iPeng.

 

[r2d2]

Have you tried Lyrion?

Whilst the native interface (web based) isn't particularly modern, there are other iOS apps available e.g. iPeng.

I haven’t
I did look into LMS ecosystem. I saw the server developed in Perl which could make it complicated for me personally to run and support this additional backend.

On the other side it’s self-contained and supports own protocol, but then the question how well wiim integrated it.

Jellyfin kinda sorta did what I wanted, but Upnp renderers and whole DNLA is such PITA I really wish wiim had mpd client that “just works”

 

[Burnside]

On the other side it’s self-contained and supports own protocol, but then the question how well wiim integrated it.

Pretty damn well, and I'd guess the LMS afficionados here would agree

 

[simbun]

I did look into LMS ecosystem. I saw the server developed in Perl which could make it complicated for me personally to run and support this additional backend.

A docker install is easiest, or a RPI image (piCorePlayer).

On the other side it’s self-contained and supports own protocol, but then the question how well wiim integrated it.

All WiiMs except the Mini run SqueezeLite, which is a native Lyrion endpoint.

Jellyfin kinda sorta did what I wanted, but Upnp renderers and whole DNLA is such PITA I really wish wiim had mpd client that “just works”

I've used the WiiMs as UPnP endpoints (with BubbleUPnP and more recently Symfonium) for over a year now and they've proven very stable.

 

[r2d2]

RPI image

Ty, I’ll check that
interesting that site looks like wiim competitor with the appliances

more recently Symfonium

Yeah, another nice option
Unfortunately iOS choices are limited.

 

[simbun]

Yeah, another nice option
Unfortunately iOS choices are limited.

You could try Amperfy, although it looks like it only supports AirPlay. Their site suggests that it only works with a couple of subsonic servers, but it is named on the OpenSubsonic site as a client so maybe it is

I've recently started using another OpenSubsonic server called Lightweight Music Server and am very happy with it.

 

[r2d2]

You could try Amperfy, although it looks like it only supports AirPlay. Their site suggests that it only works with a couple of subsonic servers, but it is named on the OpenSubsonic site as a client so maybe it is

I've recently started using another OpenSubsonic server called Lightweight Music Server and am very happy with it.

I don't want to play music on iOS, I want to play it on wiim

 

[simbun]

I don't want to play music on iOS, I want to play it on wiim

On apple devices AirPlay is the way you'd typically accomplish this - even though it is a bit sh!t.

 

[r2d2]

On apple devices AirPlay is the way you'd typically accomplish this - even though it is a bit sh!t.

Clarification
AirPlay is more like total shit