Stream through Wiim to Yamaha AVR

[DarrenH]

HI all,

In my living room I have a Yamaha RX-V585, which I use for movies and music. Front L&R and centre are Scansonic HD M20. Rears are Definitive Technology D7s. Sub is Polk PSW111.

I’ve been using Spotify Connect to stream directly to the Yammy. I’m testing Qobuz but I can’t use Qobuz Connect to stream to the Yammy. I can send it through Airplay 2 but would rather not as it’s a bit unreliable. I have all sorts of trouble accessing Qobuz directly from the Musiccast app. I think the wifi functions of the Yammy are showing its age, in terms of connection reliability and options.

What would be the best Wiim option for me to stream to and then feed audio to the Yammy, presumably through optical?

I run a Wiim Amp Pro in another room so am familiar with the app layout, etc. I don’t want another Wiim Amp in the living room due it being limited to 2.1, which does not cut it for movies. Also, I tried the Wiim Amp Pro with my existing speakers - it tried, but the difference in quality of the output compared to the Yammy was noticed.

If I can’t find a Wiim solution I may look at a new Yammy AVR, but that is much higher cost.

TIA.

 

[d6jg]

That sounds like a strange usage of "Pure" and "Direct" . Must have come from the marketing department

If you Google it you will find that it is a common misconception that applying it means that the signal stays in the analog domain when usually it doesn't. It depends on the manufacturers implementation but most simply switch off all DSP and anything video related. The pathway stays ADA.

 

[slartibartfast]

If you Google it you will find that it is a common misconception that applying it means that the signal stays in the analog domain when usually it doesn't. It depends on the manufacturers implementation but most simply switch off all DSP and anything video related. The pathway stays ADA.

This thread seems to show that Yamaha technicians can't even agree what the situation is

Yamaha's Pure Direct mode: It is analog per a...

While talking on the telephone today with a Yamaha tech on an unrelated matter, I later asked about how the Pure Direct mode is implemented on their receivers. As many here know from past threads, there have been discussions about whether Pure Direct is purely analog or not. The tech said that...

www.avsforum.com

 

[rccarguy]

Not sure Pure Direct means what you think it does. On my Onkyo Pure Direct means switch off video circuitry, apply no DSP but the audio is still routed from analogue to digital then back to analogue

Pure direct shouldn't be doing ADC then DAC. Pure direct shouldn't do any bass management, time alignment, tone controls, or room EQ.

Not sure how you can check if any ADC to DAC is going on, I guess through an oscilloscope?

 

[d6jg]

This thread seems to show that Yamaha technicians can't even agree what the situation is

Yamaha's Pure Direct mode: It is analog per a...

While talking on the telephone today with a Yamaha tech on an unrelated matter, I later asked about how the Pure Direct mode is implemented on their receivers. As many here know from past threads, there have been discussions about whether Pure Direct is purely analog or not. The tech said that...

www.avsforum.com

It is the same for most AVRs.
The key thing though is that Pure Direct should make the ADA signal path transparent and 2.0
It is subtly different to Direct mode where typically the screen stays illuminated and sub-woofer support remains i.e. 2.1.

 

[d6jg]

Pure direct shouldn't be doing ADC then DAC. Pure direct shouldn't do any bass management, time alignment, tone controls, or room EQ.

Not sure how you can check if any ADC to DAC is going on, I guess through an oscilloscope?

Have a Google around and you will find that it is ADA but as you say everything else gets switched off.

 

[Ruediger]

Still not sure it's true for the Yamahas although it could be.

Different infos out there on the topic.

I have an A-S301 too and would be disappointed if it puts everything through it's very basic TI DAC. And it's sounding too good for that. But maybe they just implement this very good.

 

[Wiimer]

Still not sure it's true for the Yamahas although it could be.

Different infos out there on the topic.

I have an A-S301 too and would be disappointed if it puts everything through it's very basic TI DAC. And it's sounding too good for that. But maybe they just implement this very good.

To my understanding, the A-S301 differs in design from the AVR. The A-S301's analog inputs bypass the ADC and are output directly without digital conversion. The A-S301's Pure Direct mode is a bypass mode that circumvents features like tone control.