Track rewind

[trickydicky1321]

Would be possible to look into a fix for this.
If I want to play a track from the beginning, it skips back to the track before.
In case of not being able to explain myself properly, attached a screenshot.
TIA

 

[Wiimer]

Hi Wiimer,

All popular music apps, including Spotify, AMU, Qobuz, Apple Music, Roon, and others, exhibit the same behavior when it comes to track rewinding. Given this, we believe this improvement is crucial. Our priority will be to ensure the real-time functionality is accurate, and we plan to implement this feature within the month.

Hi Team,

Thank you.

So you plan to make WHA work the same way as native apps?

If so, I am concerned that it may not work properly with Amazon music, for example, due to the high latency. Currently, Spotify connect and Alexa Cast playback works the same as native apps when controlled by the WHA controller, but the delay often causes problems. (I can't go back to the previous track after two consecutive taps.)

 

[hgo58]

Hi Wiimer,

All popular music apps, including Spotify, AMU, Qobuz, Apple Music, Roon, and others, exhibit the same behavior when it comes to track rewinding. Given this, we believe this improvement is crucial. Our priority will be to ensure the real-time functionality is accurate, and we plan to implement this feature within the month.

Maybe many other applications works by double pressing rewind but this doesn't always work due to delays. The current WiiM functionality is the most logical and will always work (rew+fwr to go to start of track). Please don't change something that works.

 

[Mr Ee]

It would seem trivial to support both, but would mean another option in the app.
Go with convention

 

[Wiimer]

It would seem trivial to support both, but would mean another option in the app.
Go with convention

From a bird's eye view, it is certainly the most reasonable thing to do. However, I believe that sometimes there are wrong or outdated conventions.

In my opinion, one of the attractions of WHA is its ability to offer unique features not available in native apps.

Focusing only on "return to previous track" the WHA controller may be an innovation that takes streamer delays into account. (At least for some users.)

Having said that, all I can do is trust the team and wait.

 

[Wiimer]

Just one more thing to add: in many streaming apps, we can simply swipe the controller left or right to move to the previous or next track.
However, this is not possible with WHA.

This is something to consider as well.

 

[Uli_HIFI]

Hello company WIIM,
It will be great, if you can update the software (04.09.2025)
I have bought an WIIM Ultra (02.09.2025) and have also this problem with fast forward and rewind. (vorwärts und zurückspulen).
>>> For example go to the drum Solo in the song etc.
On the WIIM App I can go to the song position but the music is not playing correct ? (Tested with Stream and USB)
Proposal: WIIM APP : Add a buffer or ? ,that this is possible in the future.
Remote control: Press the next song button a longer time and the song will fast forward or
Press the last song button a longer time and the song will fast rewind.
Reference: CD player, Tape players , etc. handling
Thank you !

P.S. Complete Song's forward and backward is working fine.
Tested with the latest software version (update)

 

[EddNog]

Can this not be done like it is done in the Apple Music app?
Pressing skip back takes you back to the start of the current track, but if pressed twice in quick succession it takes you to the previous track.

Literally any normal CD/LD/BRD player, iPod/DAP, or any such thing that my children are too young to ever remember functions this way. The WiiM is actually abnormal in this respect. I 100% agree with Quarry on this.

-Ed

 

[MotleyG]

All popular music apps, including Spotify, AMU, Qobuz, Apple Music, Roon, and others, exhibit the same behavior when it comes to track rewinding. Given this, we believe this improvement is crucial. Our priority will be to ensure the real-time functionality is accurate, and we plan to implement this feature within the month.

This was from December 2024, now it is September 25. I thought it would have been implemented within a month, as in 30 days or less. But clearly the message states within the month - but not which month or year.

 

[Uli_HIFI]

Added Info:
Company Marantz & Denon hast Update the Heos App with this function 2024. (Streaming)
Feedback / wish from the Customer .
P.S. If you hear a long Klassik or Pop Song etc. this ist a nice Feature.
Maybe WIIM can put it on the Customer Wish list again.
I wish you a nice day !

 

[KrimsonAudio]

I put in a support request regarding this. There is no reason wiim's audio player should behave differently than every other audio player. I suggest everyone put in a support ticket. An option would be a nice workaround. That way people that like the odd current configuration can keep it. When you press previous track, the track is supposed to start over. Press it twice to go back to the previous song. Why change something that is universally accepted?

 

[KrimsonAudio]

Hi Wiimer,

All popular music apps, including Spotify, AMU, Qobuz, Apple Music, Roon, and others, exhibit the same behavior when it comes to track rewinding. Given this, we believe this improvement is crucial. Our priority will be to ensure the real-time functionality is accurate, and we plan to implement this feature within the month.

Any updates?

 

[Wiimer]

. When you press previous track, the track is supposed to start over. Press it twice to go back to the previous song.

To be precise, it's not how many music apps operate. This is how it actually works.

1) If you tap the back button once more than 3 seconds after the track starts playing, it returns to the beginning of the track.

2) If you tap the back button once within 3 seconds of the track starting to play, it returns to the previous track.


The appearance that double-tapping returns to the previous track stems from this rule. However, on some streaming services, operational delays within the WiiM app may prevent this from functioning correctly. For instance, when playing via AlexaCast on Amazon Music, double-tapping may not work properly within the Amazon Music app. (The same is likely to occur within the WiiM app.)

This is not to say I oppose your request. Should the behaviour be changed, a swipe-based skip function would need to be added. While swipe-based skipping is a standard feature on many music services, it is currently absent from the WiiM app.

 

[KrimsonAudio]

To be precise, it's not how many music apps operate. This is how it actually works.

1) If you tap the back button once more than 3 seconds after the track starts playing, it returns to the beginning of the track.

2) If you tap the back button once within 3 seconds of the track starting to play, it returns to the previous track.


The appearance that double-tapping returns to the previous track stems from this rule. However, on some streaming services, operational delays within the WiiM app may prevent this from functioning correctly. For instance, when playing via AlexaCast on Amazon Music, double-tapping may not work properly within the Amazon Music app. (The same is likely to occur within the WiiM app.)

This is not to say I oppose your request. Should the behaviour be changed, a swipe-based skip function would need to be added. While swipe-based skipping is a standard feature on many music services, it is currently absent from the WiiM app.

Does that suggest that they’re unlikely to resolve the issue in either way? I’m curious. The absence of high-resolution multi-room playback within the Wiim app is the only other factor preventing me from using it exclusively and not switching back and forth to Tidal. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I’m glad I’m not alone in these hopes.

I don't have the bandwidth to go back and test every app, but I just tested Tidal and YouTube Music, and they work as I said. A minute into the song, one tap results in going to the beginning of the song. Double tap results in the previous track being played.

 

[Wiimer]

I don't have the bandwidth to go back and test every app, but I just tested Tidal and YouTube Music, and they work as I said. A minute into the song, one tap results in going to the beginning of the song. Double tap results in the previous track being played.

Indeed, it works in most cases. However, it is important to note that double-tapping is not an official feature.

As a test, start playing a track in the YouTube Music app and tap the back button just once within 3 seconds of starting. It should return you to the previous track. This means the trigger for returning to the previous track is not double-tapping.

To reiterate, if adding this functionality to the WiiM app, an alternative method is required as double-tapping may cease to function correctly with some streaming services. That is why I propose swipe-based skipping.

Therefore, my suggestion is as follows.

1) If you tap the back button once more than 3 seconds after the track starts playing, it returns to the beginning of the track.

2) If you tap the back button once within 3 seconds of the track starting to play, it returns to the previous track.

3) Swiping left or right on the playback screen or album art will skip tracks. (The playback controller displayed at the bottom of the screen when the playback screen is closed functions in the same way.)

# This is standard behaviour for many music apps.

 

[KrimsonAudio]

Indeed, it works in most cases. However, it is important to note that double-tapping is not an official feature.

As a test, start playing a track in the YouTube Music app and tap the back button just once within 3 seconds of starting. It should return you to the previous track. This means the trigger for returning to the previous track is not double-tapping.

To reiterate, if adding this functionality to the WiiM app, an alternative method is required as double-tapping may cease to function correctly with some streaming services. That is why I propose swipe-based skipping.

Therefore, my suggestion is as follows.

1) If you tap the back button once more than 3 seconds after the track starts playing, it returns to the beginning of the track.

2) If you tap the back button once within 3 seconds of the track starting to play, it returns to the previous track.

3) Swiping left or right on the playback screen or album art will skip tracks. (The playback controller displayed at the bottom of the screen when the playback screen is closed functions in the same way.)

Hopefully one day soon! I'm just using the slider until something is changed, buuut it's unresponsive at times haha.