What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?

[joffy1780]

Really intrigued to see what the final product coming out this year will be, new Wiim Amp looks amazing IMHO and have plans to get one when it comes out.

I would love to see a Wiim Pro Pre, basically a Wiim Amp with both balanced and single ended inputs and outputs, as well as the independent subwoofer output and no speaker amplifier. Performant headphone amp included would be a dream.
As far as digital inputs all I'd like is eArc, coax and optical.
Not fussed about a display for album art/vu meters as I personally don't see the need if I can see it via a control app, for example, if and when I need to.

 

[VNice]

1. Support for new Wifi standard: 6E and the upcoming 7 spec

For a streamer this is critical because generally everyone is using WiFi to stream. Ultimately you can make the fanciest device in the world but if it keeps dropping your wifi connection people will hate it. WiFi performance is critical. Maybe an antenna option as well?

2. An FM tuner integrated into the streamer. People still listen to the terrestrial radio. There are virtually no devices that offer this in a compact form any more.

3. Wall mount options on the case or a custom bracket. Thanks to condo living and open floor plans, people want their hifi to be hidden away as much as possible.

4. Support for more streaming services in the Home app: YouTube Music, Apple Music, CBC Radio, Idagio, etc. More more more, we’re very greedy.

5. A screen on the front that provides some useful info on what is playing. But one that you can turn off if iit’s in a bedroom location.

6. Balanced analog outputs. Maybe … your device doesn’t really pass on any noise that I can hear so that may be an unnecessary.

7. Support for external USB DACS.

8. Combination headphone amplifier/streamer/DAC. Maybe … it would have to be better than your phone+dongle or what’s the point? Your phone is the ultimate streamer and those dongles are pretty good now. So you’d have to offer something interesting here, maybe support for a wide range of headphones, balanced outputs, something that makes it special.

9. HDMI/ARC input so your device can be combined with active speakers and a smart TV for a total A/V solution with no big boxes!

 

[Brantome]

It looks like it has #9, and as has been said previously about such a wishlist, everything is probably possible in some future product but not at the price point being mooted

 

[Smartplug]

I’m willing to pay premium price if included Dirac as well what’s already been mention about different kind of connections. We probably see this new product by the end of next year.

 

[Smartplug]

The next product lunching before this year end has similarly to power node.

 

[Matias]

Any chance of a modern, compact AV processor?
Inputs: HDMI eARC, Toslink, Ethernet, Wi-Fi.
Outputs: 7.2 line out RCAs (balanced TRS would be a dream though).
Supporting all current Dolby and DTS standards, individual channel levels, PEQ and subwoofer cutoff adjustments.

Use the same beautiful chassis, but on the back, add 5.1 line out RCAs where the speaker terminals are.

Here is the mockup.
Edit: I missed the trigger out 3.5 mm jack...

 

[Brantome]

Use the same beautiful chassis, but on the back, remove the line input RCAs and add 5.1 line out RCAs where the speaker terminals are.

Here is the mockup.
Edit: I missed the trigger out 3.5 mm jack...

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so you want a multi channel pre amp rather than an amp?

 

[Brantome]

Maybe that could be their next product - the WiiM streaming AVR?

 

[Brantome]

Use the same beautiful chassis, but on the back, remove the line input RCAs and add 5.1 line out RCAs where the speaker terminals are.

Here is the mockup.
Edit: I missed the trigger out 3.5 mm jack...

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Might be an idea to watermark those images as a user based mockup in case they end up on the ‘net as officially sourced from WiiM. There’s enough fake news around as it is

 

[Matias]

Install this AVP between the TV and a multichannel power amp and active sub, get the popcorn bucket and let the "binge-watching" begin!

Or turn off the TV, open the cell phone app, and stream your favorite songs to your HT in 2.0 or scale up to 5.1.

 

[Smartplug]

Let’s be honest all users here want fully featured streamer at a price of a peanut.

 

[Giulio]

A "digital-only" device, devoid of both analog and Bluetooth components, focusing on cost savings in production.
In the market, there are low-cost, superb DACs made by companies that have been producing such equipment for years, and the same goes for Bluetooth.
It doesn't make much sense to try to compete with these dedicated products.
On the other hand, there is, at least to my knowledge, a lack of high-end streamers that handle music solely from a digital perspective.
With the savings from forgoing these two features, which are often unused by customers, a lot could be done.
For example, it would be sufficient to include a DSP capable of seriously processing a 24/192 stream with a plethora of user-selectable parameters.
I would also skip expensive displays and physical controls, which have now become obsolete due to the applications available on mobile phones. Let's say a "black box" that is entirely digital, capable of superbly processing music streams.

 

[dssme]

What products would you like to see based on what you've experienced so far?

My wish list is more attention to a high quality output, with USB & i2s & AES outputs also available, with a USB & HDMI input, more solid case & more ability to control the device outside the Linkplay infrastructure if desired.
But especially attention to quality reclocking and quiet digital outs
You'll be able to raise the price to make up the cost, I'm sure
Oh, and as for a display, I prefer a smaller one that shows album art and metadata, not necessarily a big display like for example the Eversolo or Rose products, but I could certainly survive with the big screen

 

[ka07056]

Use the same beautiful chassis, but on the back, add 5.1 line out RCAs where the speaker terminals are.

Here is the mockup.
Edit: I missed the trigger out 3.5 mm jack...

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Has WiiM considered an RCA to an external amp to run as a Zone 2?

 

[Brantome]

Has WiiM considered an RCA to an external amp to run as a Zone 2?

Not that I see for this model - you might however be able to group the amp with another WiiM device for multi zone playback if the firmware/hardware permits it.

 

[Smartplug]

Wiiim will eventually have streamer that has all connections imaginable and maybe with room correction Dirac. From that point it’s end game for everyone.

 

[Brantome]

Wiiim will eventually have streamer that has all connections imaginable and maybe with room correction Dirac. From that point it’s end game for everyone.

Well, you do realise that it would cost an awful lot more than current models with users potentially only using a fraction of all the available connections? Plus it’d be bigger than the biggest Denon AVR you’ve ever seen and need a small power generator of its own

 

[Guest1]

Such an "end game" ( which never really is an end) would cost significant more than WiiMs business idea for a cheap streamer. And if one is prepared to pay let's say more than 1500 €/£/$ he does not have to wait for WiiM. Such stuff is available already.

 

[Smartplug]

Well, you do realise that it would cost an awful lot more than current models with users potentially only using a fraction of all the available connections? Plus it’d be bigger than the biggest Denon AVR you’ve ever seen and need a small power generator of its own

Minus amp, just streamer with the connections that users would want to see. Of course that would raise a cost as long is not by thousands then I’m ok with that. I heard speakers, amp that cost as much as exotic car but did sound superior than what I have at home. The law of diminishing return. Often times we pay exotic price just to get that remaining 10 percent.

 

[Smartplug]

Such an "end game" ( which never really is an end) would cost significant more than WiiMs business idea for a cheap streamer. And if one is prepared to pay let's say more than 1500 €/£/$ he does not have to wait for WiiM. Such stuff is available already.

There’s lots of out there that are expensive like naim, hifi rose and sure there’s improvements on their design but the question is it worth paying that exotic price just to get the last ounce of juice? In general population most won’t as they argue that they can’t hear difference due to their aging ear.