What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?
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przenośny głośnik + stałe zasilanie, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth + budzik
I corrected the description, it is supposed to be a large speaker
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I would like to see a pure streamer without an analogue part, but with a good touch screen from a smartphone, not necessarily high resolution about 7", on which it would be convenient to control playback and presets, so that there would be no need to reach for a smartphone. Or with a simple matrix a screen that will display the name of a song or radio station large and on the body so that you can quickly select 10 presets. Perhaps it should look like a small 7"-8" tablet with an aluminum body with an adjustable angle, something like a Yoga Tablet. a tablet but with a streamer inside and that’s it. Wi:Fi, Ethernet for connecting to the network and an optical output and that’s it. Now there are a lot of active acoustics with digital inputs; they only need a digital streamer, there is no point in spending money on the analog part and analog connectors.
aimed at a niche market..will just be more expensive without a dac (represents little in the cost)..ironic no?
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I imagine that wiim can especially wonder about the reduction of the product range....rationalize...not the opposite....
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I would also like a wiim amp with additions: a simple matrix screen to show large the volume level or the name of the track or radio station, then the headphone output is 3.5 (I don’t want a separate device for listening to streaming through high-quality headphones) and the last thing, a compartment for the M2 drive, I want to collect your library of high-quality tracks that can now be bought in many places. Perhaps a powerful version of wiim amp on two TPA3255 in a dual mono scheme for connecting demanding floor acoustics.
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Nowadays it's hard to find an audio device that doesn't have a DAC!
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Only streamer.
Now a huge DAC market, which is replenished non-stop. Many people are experimenting by buying certain DACs, I am sure that each of the forum participants has at least one, and many have several of them. That's why I want to have a purely digital streamer in the lineup with reaching controls. Presets on the body!
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What streamers are available which don’t have any DAC?
I don’t think they need to reinvent wheels just add additional connections on pro plus like what Steve said and the device will go on production fast instead of starting from scratch. Sub out and xlr to name a few and you have pro plus V2.
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Calibration microphone for RC. It could be connected to the phone via USB C. More advanced and accurate RC.
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It is something to note with WiiM, they do appear to be able to take an existing model and upgrade it - presumably saving a bag of cash by using the old model as a starting point, rather than starting from scratch.
So when people say the Pro is great but the DAC isn’t good enough, we get the Pro Plus. When people say the Amp is great, but the amplification stage needs PFFB, we get the Amp Pro.
People say they like the Ultra, but would have like balanced outs…
It is something to note with WiiM, they do appear to be able to take an existing model and upgrade it - presumably saving a bag of cash by using the old model as a starting point, rather than starting from scratch.
So when people say the Pro is great but the DAC isn’t good enough, we get the Pro Plus. When people say the Amp is great, but the amplification stage needs PFFB, we get the Amp Pro.
People say they like the Ultra, but would have like balanced outs…
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I don't agree with you! That bunch of active speakers you're talking about often have a very mediocre DAC. Therefore, you have to use an analog connection!
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What a great model to follow though, listen to what customers are saying they want and then provide it.
Depending on price I'd like to see a more powerful Amp Pro with c120w .... think that'd appeal to a lot of buyers.
I also think a 3.1 system would be good with a centre, main left / right and sub out which nobody seems to produce, I think the fad of surround / rear speakers has gone for a lot of people but it's still nice to have a centre for dialogue.
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I think there was talk at the Munich Show by WiiM reps of a possible “ultra” version of the Amp with a screen - that might also present an opportunity for a more powerful version of the Amp as was talked about for the Custom Installation market a while back.
Don’t many TVs etc have a feature to enhance dialogue that would suffice for many people without the addition of a centre speaker?
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Subtitles?
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Just for clarity (see what I did there) on the need for/role of a centre speaker.
If you have a good stereo pair, and sit with yourself and speakers in an equilateral triangle, or your seat further away than that (but no closer), a centre speaker isn’t necessary, as long as you’re sat dead centre. Indeed, this is probably better, and certainly cheaper. Dialogue will not be any less clear than if you had a centre speaker.
The issue with home cinema, or in this case watching TV, you’re quite possible not sat alone, and there may be two, three, four, or even more sat across a width of space, possibly with no one, and certainly a maximum of one person, in the sweet spot.
This means that your left ear will be closer to the left speaker than your right ear will be to the right speaker (or vice versa). This in turn means that anything in the centre of the stereo image (in this case dialogue) will sound like it’s coming from off-centre, a little more to the side you’re sat on. Because the speaker you’re sat closest to will be louder (for you) than the other, and the image is pulled slightly in that direction.
How much this imbalance causes problems will depend on numerous criteria, such as how far from the TV you are, how wide the speakers are, how far from the sweet spot you are. Frankly, in most cases, the problem is slight, but there is potential for it it be an issue. A centre speaker removed that chance.
Of course, the best solution with stereo is for you (the person who payed for, researched, planned, and set the speakers up, and potentially the only person who’ll notice, or be bothered if they do notice), to sit in the sweet spot.
If you have a good stereo pair, and sit with yourself and speakers in an equilateral triangle, or your seat further away than that (but no closer), a centre speaker isn’t necessary, as long as you’re sat dead centre. Indeed, this is probably better, and certainly cheaper. Dialogue will not be any less clear than if you had a centre speaker.
The issue with home cinema, or in this case watching TV, you’re quite possible not sat alone, and there may be two, three, four, or even more sat across a width of space, possibly with no one, and certainly a maximum of one person, in the sweet spot.
This means that your left ear will be closer to the left speaker than your right ear will be to the right speaker (or vice versa). This in turn means that anything in the centre of the stereo image (in this case dialogue) will sound like it’s coming from off-centre, a little more to the side you’re sat on. Because the speaker you’re sat closest to will be louder (for you) than the other, and the image is pulled slightly in that direction.
How much this imbalance causes problems will depend on numerous criteria, such as how far from the TV you are, how wide the speakers are, how far from the sweet spot you are. Frankly, in most cases, the problem is slight, but there is potential for it it be an issue. A centre speaker removed that chance.
Of course, the best solution with stereo is for you (the person who payed for, researched, planned, and set the speakers up, and potentially the only person who’ll notice, or be bothered if they do notice), to sit in the sweet spot.
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My TV's one of the old but iconic at the time Pioneers so I doubt it has this feature but as mentioned in the quote below
Whilst I can get myself in the position as mentioned above, due to room layout the other seating areas aren't and a centre is much easier to direct to give "a happy medium" option for all without moving them out of place for my stereo listening.
Certainly if you have the ideal room layout then no it's probably not necessary and whilst it's not an essential feature that some may find beneficial ........ just leave it off for those that don't require it.
