What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?

[canard]

It's not just about " looking at it" a little support would help orient it...
(you used to see it a lot in past)...
but leave a dedicated tablet or something to charge , easily, if needed.
(I'm afraid a decent little used tablet will cost much less than what they'll charge you for a built-in screen....It looks nice... if not particularly relevant... ;-) )

 

[canard]

Placed on a charging stand via induction (or, if a sufficiently powerful charger is integrated into the machine, via a standard cable)
Induction charging is just a vague idea for leaving it on charge and not struggling to find it hidden "under the cushions" ;-)

and on a small vertical stand during use

This is just a reflection on a practical aspect: avoiding cables/clutter... and the quality of an interface/screen.
If a revision of the Ultra, with or ,without screen like "Plus", were ever to come out, you'd understand my preference.
The marketing of the integred screen, its size, etc., frankly has its limits...
But anyway...it looks nice
;-)

 

[Wiimer]

Placed on a charging stand via induction (or, if a sufficiently powerful charger is integrated into the machine, via a standard cable)
Induction charging is just a vague idea for leaving it on charge and not struggling to find it hidden "under the cushions" ;-)

and on a small vertical stand during use

This is just a reflection on a practical aspect: avoiding cables/clutter... and the quality of an interface/screen.
If a revision of the Ultra, with or ,without screen like "Plus", were ever to come out, you'd understand my preference.
The marketing of the integred screen, its size, etc., frankly has its limits...
But anyway...it looks nice
;-)

Please place this on the side table next to the couch. That's enough.

 

[canard]

No, the idea ,for me ,is to have an integrated charging solution on the streamer itself... so you can leave a tablet, phone, etc., on it for your own use. (and avoid the limitations inherent in internal screens)
Anyway... end of digression.
;-)

 

[Wiimer]

No, the idea ,for me ,is to have an integrated charging solution on the streamer itself... so you can leave a tablet, phone, etc., on it for your own use. (and avoid the limitations inherent in internal screens)
Anyway... end of digression.
;-)

Yes, please place this on top of your WiiM device.

 

[rccarguy]

How about Wiim with built in dishwasher, bicycle brake bleeding pump, a Rolls Royce AE1170C CU programmer?

 

[canard]

When you think about it, the last of the "simple" Wiim streamers, the Ultra, will soon be two years old (early summer)...
.( mini end of 21!)

Is a product like that in the works...?
Or a pair of connected slippers with built-in speakers...? Connected to the : https://www.wiimhome.com/wiimlight/...Zaha98XalHs_CEZG6TLewq_53V7JeF4mQ4CTHMqbbfVxV
often forgotten
;-)


We don't know...
;-)

 

[AlanB]

I would like a WiiM for the car, perhaps using PEQ to cancel engine and road noise.

Come to think of it WiiM could build the car to go with it.

It would cost the same as a Dacia Duster and after a few software and firmware updates would have the performance of a Ferrari and the luggage capacity of a pantechnicon removals van!

 

[huyvoxyz]

A streamer/DAC combo that competes with the Eversolo dmp a6 gen 2. The Eversolo's analog output sounds so incredible, but the mobile app is honestly one of the worst I've ever used. Wiim is an excellent streamer with a fantastic app, a flagship device with a hi-end DAC and great analog output would be end game for me.

 

[canard]

For a long time now, it's clear that many people are dreaming of an Eversolo "bis"... at a "low price"... Wiim-style... Is the software better on the Eversolo? Are the features as rich?
Or is it just for the device itself?
The large screen?
The XLR output? T
hese are all marketing points... ;-)))

What's funny, I find, is that I meet a lot of people who are ultimately quite disappointed with the Eversolo... certainly in proportion to the price.....
But also quite a few people reselling Wiims... to buy the "fancy" Eversolo... but not out of disappointment... not at all... maybe it's a bit of a fantasy... and a prettier one...
Really rational?
;-)

(But that doesn't prevent Wiim, based on the experience they've accumulated, from creating more refined and sophisticated machines in the future, particularly regarding the audio... there's room for improvement... but ultimately it only justifies a few tens of dollars more... ;-) After the beautiful cases and screens... that's something else entirely...That costs a lot more than "electronics".)

 

[s3igell]

No, the idea ,for me ,is to have an integrated charging solution on the streamer itself... so you can leave a tablet, phone, etc., on it for your own use. (and avoid the limitations inherent in internal screens)
Anyway... end of digression.
;-)

If you are looking for a "semi-permanent fixed/integrated charging solution", think a USB-C PD port instead of a Induction Charger.

One of the major bugaboos of small compact Audio Equipment is EMF in its various forms. It is why people prefer external Power Supplies and worry abut the High-speed SoC and WiFi/Bluetooth Antennas. And you are proposing placing a large Induction Charger Coil in the top of the case??
Really??

 

[canard]

No..(
.but it deserves to be observed and measured in situ to advance "science" ;-)...screens, on the other hand, have been observed for a very long time)
;-)
My main enemy is probably the internal screen (especially since, as you mentioned, it's generally best to turn it off for audio) ;-) but using external screens like tablets requires different charging methods...and I'm fed up with charging cables lying around everywhere... ;
-)

 

[s3igell]

For a long time now, it's clear that many people are dreaming of an Eversolo "bis"... at a "low price"... Wiim-style... Is the software better on the Eversolo? Are the features as rich?
Or is it just for the device itself?
The large screen?
The XLR output? T
hese are all marketing points... ;-)))

What's funny, I find, is that I meet a lot of people who are ultimately quite disappointed with the Eversolo... certainly in proportion to the price.....
But also quite a few people reselling Wiims... to buy the "fancy" Eversolo... but not out of disappointment... not at all... maybe it's a bit of a fantasy... and a prettier one...
Really rational?
;-)

(But that doesn't prevent Wiim, based on the experience they've accumulated, from creating more refined and sophisticated machines in the future, particularly regarding the audio... there's room for improvement... but ultimately it only justifies a few tens of dollars more... ;-) After the beautiful cases and screens... that's something else entirely...That costs a lot more than "electronics".)

The other thing that many people claim is an improvement worth payment is the stronger Output Stage built into the EverSolo and HiFi-Rose et al. Perhaps it is the additional OpAmps needed to provide the Differential Output, or maybe just the larger budget...
But, most forums admit that WiiM Home App and WiiM Feature Development kicks butt!!

 

[canard]

But adding a balanced output costs almost nothing for these manufacturers... even a few Chinese Oxco , or isolation transformers ,"opa1612"...
cost a few tens of dollars...
but it's marketing that clearly "pays off"...
In any case, it's completely unrelated to the cost of production here.


Wiim won't be able to avoid it in the future...

 

[s3igell]

But adding a balanced output costs almost nothing for these manufacturers... even a few Chinese Oxco , or isolation transformers ,
cost a few tens of dollars... but it's marketing that clearly "pays off"...
Wiim won't be able to avoid it in the future...

Yes, some Chi-Fi (and brands built elsewhere) "cheap-out" by adding only the final OpAmp to drive a Balanced Connector. But others actually design the entire Output Chain from the ESS Sabre ES9038Q2M (or equiv) to the back-panel connectors with dualed components for "True" Balanced Output. That care in design effort usually pays off as a stronger / cleaner Output Stage.

 

[canard]

Yes, some Chi-Fi (and brands built elsewhere) "cheap-out" by adding only the final OpAmp to drive a Balanced Connector. But others actually design the entire Output Chain from the ESS Sabre ES9038Q2M (or equiv) to the back-panel connectors with dualed components for "True" Balanced Output. That care in design effort usually pays off as a stronger / cleaner Output Stage.

Yes, but in any case, it's not very expensive to produce (mounted on robots, etc.)...don't get carried away....
More a" care " that a cost
(And if it's well marketed...it sells well..)

 

[canard]

I must be really unrepresentative because for me, the whole point of streamers is to be able to use them from your couch...
without having to handle anything directly like with CDs, tapes, etc....
and therefore to potentially be hidden inside the furniture...!
so the idea of those beautiful cases, screens (which won't do any better than our high-performance tablets and phones) clumsy, small, a fragility, even affecting the audio etc., that we're charged a fortune for... because they're both expensive and incredibly lucrative, makes me smile...

when the object takes precedence over the function....

 

[edo gawa]

I'd be happy with a refresh to the Pro & Pro+ that adds USB inputs. And replace mine in a heartbeat if it happened.

 

[castalla]

I must be really unrepresentative because for me, the whole point of streamers is to be able to use them from your couch...
without having to handle anything directly like with CDs, tapes, etc....
and therefore to potentially be hidden inside the furniture...!
so the idea of those beautiful cases, screens (which won't do any better than our high-performance tablets and phones) clumsy, small, a fragility, even affecting the audio etc., that we're charged a fortune for... because they're both expensive and incredibly lucrative, makes me smile...

when the object takes precedence over the function....

I guess people use streaming services to varying degrees - I have Tidal which to be honest I hardly ever use nowadays as I prefer to use youtube for sound & visual playback. But hardly any streamers support youtube, so I pay the Tidal tax largely through inertia. Time to change, methinks. I find a physical CD is of more emotional worth than some disembodied entity out-there somewhere somehow being guarded by some AI Security outfit

 

[TonyE]

The other thing that many people claim is an improvement worth payment is the stronger Output Stage built into the EverSolo and HiFi-Rose et al. Perhaps it is the additional OpAmps needed to provide the Differential Output, or maybe just the larger budget...
But, most forums admit that WiiM Home App and WiiM Feature Development kicks butt!!

I looked into the Eversolos and the WiiM.

Got the WiiM because I already have very good sounding USB DACs. The Eversolo is, to me, a compromise. The WiiM Ultra, to me, is a bit perfect bridge with very a very good user interface... my DACs all have very good analog output stages... better than the Eversolo. And upgrading the DAC is system..

Oh, integration? Look, my turntable has an external power supply... the phono preamp has an external, dual mono, power supply, etc... so, what's one more box and one more cable between friends?

I see it as flexibility.

The two things that I really would like to see... at the risk of repeating myself

(1) Fix WiiM Home for the PC... it drops the network connection too often
(2) A Pure Bridge mode where it just bridges between the IP and the USB connections. No room correction, no balance, nothing.

OK, one more.... how about a USB Tape Deck mode for the WiiM Ultra Amp? It would come down to including an analog input and make it so the amplifier can take its input from the internal DAC or the analog input.

In essence separating the preamp audio output selection and the amplifier input selection. This way, you could take the WiiM Ultra Amp and add a better USB going forward.

Yes, I can see issues with the selection of volume, room correction, etc... you would lose all of them. But that would be OK.