What to do with ripped CDs?

[HighNRG]

I think the legal battle was lost long ago. Even in Germany, where we have an infamous mafia from so called "Abmahnanwälten" I never heard of a single case coming to court over the last lets say 15 years. It was a bit different during the high time of p2p "file sharing". So I think every one here and outside has his own method.
Every piece of music in our rooms come either from radio stations or are physically here in a CD player or on the platter. The stored files are in the bin, as mentioned above. Although we pay three subscriptions the use is very rare. So, good conscience here.

 

[hoohoohoo]

I don‘t like donating these days. It will usually either serve commercial purposes or end up with the wrong people.
In most case I‘d rather pay for the disposal than donate it.

My kids are starting to experiment with CDs. I'd gladly give them to anyone. Sure donations aren't perfect, but some will end up bringing joy to the eventual owners. A music reseller making a couple of shekels is okay too since he or she helped get it to the next owner.

 

[Skull]

I haven't got a clue what the law is in the UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-33566933

Doubt it gets enforced unless it’s done on an industrial scale
As for me my CDs are all on the shelves above my stereo and have been ripped to a,well several hard drives
But I still use them now and again and add to the collection when the mood takes me

 

[d6jg]

In EU it is legal to Buy a CD → Rip it for personal use → Sell the physical CD → Repeat.

There are of course some ethical perspective in this but it is legal.

Have you got a reference that confirms this as UK law definitely forbids and hasn’t (to my knowledge) been changed since Brexit so is likely to mirror EU.

 

[scottm]

Mine went in the bin. I previously spent a fair bit of time selling old vinyl, but when, more recently, it came to CDs the prices being offered weren't worth my effort to deal with the sale process.

 

[hgo58]

Have you got a reference that confirms this as UK law definitely forbids and hasn’t (to my knowledge) been changed since Brexit so is likely to mirror EU.

There is not a single reference but you may look up "Private Copying Exception" and "First-sale doctrine" for EU.

You can say that the right to copy and then sale is a loophole between those.

 

[HighNRG]

Mine went in the bin. I previously spent a fair bit of time selling old vinyl, but when, more recently, it came to CDs the prices being offered weren't worth my effort to deal with the sale process.

Or do it like me, I found a local refugee help agency. Every single Cent helps. They have volunteers who sort it and sell it on flea markets.

 

[slartibartfast]

There is not a single reference but you may look up "Private Copying Exception" and "First-sale doctrine" for EU.

You can say that the right to copy and then sale is a loophole between those.

These "Private Copying Exceptions" are meant to be accompanied by a levy on blank media to compensate the copyright holders but this doesn't make sense for ripping CDs to a hard drive.

 

[dangermouse]

All mine went to Age UK.

I might need their help one of these days so it seemed appropriate.

 

[hgo58]

These "Private Copying Exceptions" are meant to be accompanied by a levy on blank media to compensate the copyright holders but this doesn't make sense for ripping CDs to a hard drive.

There was added some information about cloud backup later. So as far as I can see it is legal also for ripping.

 

[slartibartfast]

There was added some information about cloud backup later. So as far as I can see it is legal also for ripping.

Seems in the UK we can blame the Musician's Union

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/06/european-copyright-madness-court-strikes-down-law-allowing-users-rip-their-own-cds

 

[mlsstl]

Just a footnote -- virtually all of the copyright violation lawsuits in the U.S. involved people who posted digital copies on the internet. Napster was one of the biggest offenders. The setup was called "peer to peer file sharing." In this situation one person could upload a track or album and it wasn't one or two more people who received a copy without further compensation for the artist, it was thousands of people or more. Napster started in 1999 and was shut down two years later. RIAA and the record companies have never shown much interest in chasing people who buy a CD, rip it for themselves, and then give or sell the disk to someone else. The right to sell used CDs and records is perfectly legal as is the right to make copies for backup or use in your car, etc. The technicality is that you're not supposed to keep a copy if you pass the recording to someone else. But how do they know you kept a copy? That'd be a lot of legal work for very little gain. It's the sharing via internet that they want to stop.