I have a Tangent CD II player which has optical input to a WiiM Amp, however, they seem not to speak to each other particularly well and there is a constant stop/start in the sound even though the CD keeps playing. This used not to be an issue earlier in the year and I was wondering if a firmware update might have caused this. I have tried using different CD players, which all work fine, and different amps, which also work fine. I have tried swapping new, out of the box, WiiM Amps and new, out of the box, Tangent CD II players but the problem persists. If I use the “line in” then I don’t have the issue, so it is isolated to the optical input of which five cables have been tried with the same result.
WiiM Amp vs Tangent CD II
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Brantome
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Submit a ticket to WiiM thru the settings/feedback section of the WiiM Home app so they can inspect your device logs for clues to the issue.
Are you saying that other CD players work fine into the WiiM Amp and it's just the Tangent CD II that fails?
Are you saying that other CD players work fine into the WiiM Amp and it's just the Tangent CD II that fails?
@Brantome Feedback logged, thanks.
Yes it is just the Tangent CD II. Have tried with another WiiM Amp and same issue. Have tried with my WiiM Amp and another Tangent CD II and the same issue. Have tried all combinations and it points to the optical input from the Tangent to the WiiM: they just don’t seem to like each other.
Yes it is just the Tangent CD II. Have tried with another WiiM Amp and same issue. Have tried with my WiiM Amp and another Tangent CD II and the same issue. Have tried all combinations and it points to the optical input from the Tangent to the WiiM: they just don’t seem to like each other.
Tangent CD II Review • Music For The Masses
A thorough review of the Tangent CD II CD Player by Jürgen Kraus.
www.audioreviews.org
I think it's a jitter problem!
Read the cons.
@RezNam Not so, it plays just fine through non WiiM amps. I understand what the review is saying and I was influenced by the price, but if it works on some amps there is obviously an incompatibility with the WiiM and I am sure most of the blame will be with Tangent.Tangent CD II Review • Music For The Masses
A thorough review of the Tangent CD II CD Player by Jürgen Kraus.
I think it's a jitter problem!
Read the cons.
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Beer72
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I have had same issue with my Tangent CD11 . I've only had my WiiM Amp for a couple of months. The day I set it all up my Tangent CD was just cutting out during play back. However after I installed the software update a couple of hours later. The Tangent was fine and has been up to a couple of weeks ago. Now it's cutting out again a couple of times per track on every CD. Tangent plays fine through phono input.
I will not be popular for this, but my $20 DVD drive in my minicomputer makes bit perfect rips of CDs using Exact Audio Copy.
EAC can then go to any of several online databases to get the metadata. And save to FLAC or MP3.
No more jitter, no more worries about physical damage.
There’s an initial investment of time.
EAC can then go to any of several online databases to get the metadata. And save to FLAC or MP3.
No more jitter, no more worries about physical damage.
There’s an initial investment of time.
Snap!
Any progress here? I am thinking of buying a Tangent CD II. Do I dare?
cooky560
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Buy any used cd player with an optical output, it'll come with a better remote, read cds better and be far cheaper.
I have one of my moderate sized technics collection connected to my WiiM amp which is from the 80s and was $4 second hand, plays cds perfectly, uses the WiiM's dac so it's age doesn't matter, and has a display and remote.
castalla
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CD displays are the bare minimum. It beats me that CD players never displayed at least the track titles. The only device which I know of that does metadata is the Brennan B3. Are there others?
hgo58
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This information is not available on the CD.
To display it, a lookup in an external databases is needed.
castalla
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Yes, I know. It still surprises me that manufacturers never developed an on-disc metadata standard.
My setup does a Musicbrainz lookup, but still it's not perfect.
hgo58
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It was included with the Mini Disc format but that died with the intro of MP3 players.
Wasn't there a feature on some CDs called CDtext or CDinfo that had that info?
Edit: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/CD-Text
Edit: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/CD-Text
cooky560
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This isn't true, most 90s and 2000s cds contain something called CD text, though few players can read them.
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I was about to say the same. I don't know how many CDs had it but some of mine did, many all upper case letters.
castalla
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I loved the minidisc format - so sad it failed.
Beer72
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I had the same problem with my Tengent CD11. Apparently it's something to do with the CD player itself. It's needs a Better DAC than the WiiM Amp to perform properly. The WiiM struggles with the high Jitter from the CD11 so they have to keep updating and sometimes they don't update it. So it doesn't work properly. I got rid of my WiiM Amp and purchased a proper Amp and added a pro plus. CD11 is fine with new Amp.
castalla
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I got a recent CD (Gretchen Peters - Secret of Life) which isn't detected by Musicbrainz & only lists Tracks. I was surprised by this rare failure.
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