WiiM Mini with Pro's Multiroom Resolution

[Witterings]

It's been a while since I've looked at this, going back ages ago, the Mini wasn't able to play Hi Res 24/192 in a multiroom setup I belive as the hardware couldn't deal with it so there was no upgrade

If you now have say 2 Pros and a Mini in a group, firstly will they work together and do you have to change any settings or will they just default and play to the lower resolution?

 

[Mr Ee]

It's been a while since I've looked at this, going back ages ago, the Mini wasn't able to play Hi Res 24/192 in a multiroom setup I belive as the hardware couldn't deal with it so there was no upgrade

If you now have say 2 Pros and a Mini in a group, firstly will they work together and do you have to change any settings or will they just default and play to the lower resolution?

48khz / 16 bit is the max for multiroom regardless of which devices are grouped.

 

[Witterings]

48khz / 16 bit is the max for multiroom regardless of which devices are grouped.

I know Amazon used to do 24/192 and was the reason I updated my Mini's to Pros.... maybe they were the only provider to achieve that.

 

[Mr Ee]

I know Amazon used to do 24/192 and was the reason I updated my Mini's to Pros.... maybe they were the only provider to achieve that.

I'm 99.999% sure wiim multiroom has never done more than 48khz.
Oft requested, ne'er seen.

 

[HighNRG]

I would add the missing 0,001 %.

 

[Burnside]

I know Amazon used to do 24/192 and was the reason I updated my Mini's to Pros.... maybe they were the only provider to achieve that.

I’m not sure if Alexa MRM groups are also constrained to 16/48 too - that’s all I’m seeing grouping three WiiM devices together. Plus the WiiM home app no longer seems to show what’s playing when I use Alexacast from the Amazon music app to that MRM group. I’ve submitted a ticket to WiiM

 

[slartibartfast]

I’m not sure if Alexa MRM groups are also constrained to 16/48 too - that’s all I’m seeing grouping three WiiM devices together. Plus the WiiM home app no longer seems to show what’s playing when I use Alexacast from the Amazon music app to that MRM group. I’ve submitted a ticket to WiiM

What do you get if you group three WiiM devices in Lyrion? You would probably have to use local music.

 

[Burnside]

What do you get if you group three WiiM devices in Lyrion? You would probably have to use local music.

Nothing for Amazon Music

I think as @d6jg has said in the past, Lyrion groups do support full resolution

 

[Mr Ee]

What do you get if you group three WiiM devices in Lyrion?

I was waiting for the punchline....

 

[Burnside]

Nothing for Amazon Music

I think as @d6jg has said in the past, Lyrion groups do support full resolution

Just played some Qobuz tracks to 5 WiiM devices (including speakers) and they all play at 24/192 together from Lyrion.

 

[d6jg]

Just played some Qobuz tracks to 5 WiiM devices (including speakers) and they all play at 24/192 together from Lyrion.

Light years ahead …..

 

[d6jg]

I’m sure WiiM have sold loads of devices for use with Lyrion - perhaps more than anyone ever expected when they were persuaded to add Squeezelite back at the beginning. I see lots of references to WiiM over at the Lyrion forums these days.

 

[QuarryHunslet]

Just played some Qobuz tracks to 5 WiiM devices (including speakers) and they all play at 24/192 together from Lyrion.

What streaming protocol are they using? Is it UPnP / DLNA, or something else? It’s a pity that WiiM can’t do the same thing instead of their unsuccessful attempts at DLNA Casting.

 

[d6jg]

What streaming protocol are they using? Is it UPnP / DLNA, or something else? It’s a pity that WiiM can’t do the same thing instead of their unsuccessful attempts at DLNA Casting.

Lyrion uses a protocol called SlimProto. The big difference is that there is a server doing the sync using time based references. AFAIK WiiM sync is player based and uses some form of “listening” to each other to achieve the sync.

 

[d6jg]

PS When playing synced the Lyrion server acts as a proxy such that the stream is either created (local music) or fetched (internet radio etc) once

 

[dtc]

Just played some Qobuz tracks to 5 WiiM devices (including speakers) and they all play at 24/192 together from Lyrion.

Were they in sync? Syncing has been an issue with multi-room and high rez.

 

[d6jg]

Were they in sync? Syncing has been an issue with multi-room and high rez.

Lyrion sync will generally cope with 24/192 as long as all players have good network connections. One player with a poor WiFi connection can cause all players in a sync group to have problems. If all players are wired you shouldn’t have any issue

 

[DazST]

This has been an informative discussion, thanks. I recently bought a wiim mini to use in my office system and have started to dabble with multiroom. So does this mean that if I try to play hi-res files from a usb connected to the amp ultra in my main system through the mini in my office, it will only play up to 16/48?

 

[Burnside]

This has been an informative discussion, thanks. I recently bought a wiim mini to use in my office system and have started to dabble with multiroom. So does this mean that if I try to play hi-res files from a usb connected to the amp ultra in my main system through the mini in my office, it will only play up to 16/48?

Only if you’re grouping the amp ultra and the mini to play the same audio. If not, the mini can happily access the usb’s files and play at full resolution - the usb drive just appears as another home share server.

 

[dtc]

Lyrion sync will generally cope with 24/192 as long as all players have good network connections. One player with a poor WiFi connection can cause all players in a sync group to have problems. If all players are wired you shouldn’t have any issue

So, can I conclude that in Burnside's test that all 5 of the devices played in sync? Just want to check.