WiiM Talks Vibelink Amp

[Smartplug]

@slartibartfast the latest update on app allow me to choose between independent and stereo rc. Are you getting the same thing on android?

 

[EddNog]

I guess this page. @RyanWithWiiM has been asked to have this clarified and the original tentative response was that it was "thermal related", but that he'd pursue a more detailed response if such is available.

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If the power ratings are for 1% THD+N, and analog input is, "not as clean," then the power output at 1% THD+N for analog input will be lower than at 1% THD+N for digital input, no?

-Ed

 

[Fralle]

You're just...missing the remote, as we all are.

I say yes. Think of it as a power amp with the option of having a digital or analog input depending on which device it's connecting to. It's not a pre-amp allowing you to switch between different sources, that's what you'd use your Ultra or other Wiim streamer for. I see it as a set it and forget it device (even to the extent of setting the volume and leaving it at that) with the connected device doing the switching between sources, volume control etc via its remote or app.

Yes. But there are a lot of options out the and a lot of us are using Ncore or the likes. Just feels like a missed opportunity to give an option for someone that wants an analogue volume control without losing the convenience. Or someone who loves the Ultra but have a hard time accepting the fact that you are digitizing your turntable. With a remote this could actually offer something way more unique. But maybe thats just me.

 

[slartibartfast]

If the power ratings are for 1% THD+N, and analog input is, "not as clean," then the power output at 1% THD+N for analog input will be lower than at 1% THD+N for digital input, no?

-Ed

Why would it not be as clean? The THD only reaches 1% beyond clipping.

 

[EddNog]

Yes. But there are a lot of options out the and a lot of us are using Ncore or the likes. Just feels like a missed opportunity to give an option for someone that wants an analogue volume control without losing the convenience. Or someone who loves the Ultra but have a hard time accepting the fact that you are digitizing your turntable. With a remote this could actually offer something way more unique. But maybe thats just me.

I hear you on the desire not to digitize an analog source.

Personally, I consider room correction too important not to use, and, just as I have given up on, "bit-perfect DSD playback," were I into vinyl, I'd give into digitization of it to get it room corrected.

But I guess if there're vinyl listeners out there with perfectly configured and treated, dedicated listening spaces that don't need correction, then I guess yeah, best to keep analog...analog.

-Ed

 

[EddNog]

Why would it not be as clean? The THD only reaches 1% beyond clipping.

I was under the impression that the lower SINAD as-tested by ASR for the analog input versus that of the digital input was coming into play. Happy to admit I may be wrong in my interpretation of those test results--I'm no subject matter expert on exactly how the test results translate to real-world power ratings.

-Ed

 

[slartibartfast]

I was under the impression that the lower SINAD as-tested by ASR for the analog input versus that of the digital input was coming into play. Happy to admit I may be wrong in my interpretation of those test results--I'm no subject matter expert on exactly how the test results translate to real-world power ratings.

-Ed

There was something strange going on for the analog input test so who knows

 

[Burnside]

But I guess if there're vinyl listeners out there with perfectly configured and treated, dedicated listening spaces that don't need correction, then I guess yeah, best to keep analog...analog.

I often wonder whether that's an emotional response not necessarily based on listening experience as I often quote the fact that Linn seem happy to digitise their flagship LP12 turntable audio (which goes from about £4K to £50k) thru their DSM products (again, anywhere from £4K to £35K). Ok, we might accept that there's maybe a scale of how well that's done, but it does show it's not necessarily a "bad thing".

 

[slartibartfast]

I often wonder whether that's an emotional response not necessarily based on listening experience as I often quote the fact that Linn seem happy to digitise their flagship LP12 turntable audio (which goes from about £4K to £50k) thru their DSM products (again, anywhere from £4K to £35K). Ok, we might accept that there's maybe a scale of how well that's done, but it does show it's not necessarily a "bad thing".

Also needledrops sound fine and what are they if not digitised analog

 

[QuarryHunslet]

Or someone who loves the Ultra but have a hard time accepting the fact that you are digitizing your turntable.

Don't forget that probably most records produced from the late 70's were digitally recorded, and mastered, before pressing the record, so they aren't strictly fully analogue anyway.

 

[Fralle]

Don't forget that probably most records produced from the late 70's were digitally recorded, and mastered, before pressing the record, so they aren't strictly fully analogue anyway.

Dont get me wrong. Iv'e been digitizing records for years and I'm on board with room correction. But a remote would have opened up for using this device as an alternative. Just feels a lot like a missed opportunity that's all.

 

[EddNog]

I guess this page. @RyanWithWiiM has been asked to have this clarified and the original tentative response was that it was "thermal related", but that he'd pursue a more detailed response if such is available.

About as good as when Mike Tyson said his injury was spinal--broke his back.

-Ed

 

[DazST]

Hi DazST, Team

We’ll be sharing detailed test reports from our lab using the AP555x shortly. In the meantime, I can confirm that the power figures are based on 1% THD+N, which is a standard benchmark across the industry.

Hope this helps clarify!

Hi, any update on when you might be releasing these test reports?

 

[RyanWithWiiM]

Hi, any update on when you might be releasing these test reports?

Just closing the loop in case you didn't see it, but we released the AP555x report in the WiiM Talks last week.

 

[DazST]

Just closing the loop in case you didn't see it, but we released the AP555x report in the WiiM Talks last week.

I did, thanks for checking back.