Burn In - Pro Plus

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If you consider Yamaha a serious manufacturer…

How to Burn-In Speakers - Yamaha Music - Blog

This article describes how to "burn in" your speakers so you can enjoy music or the audio portion of your favorite film or TV show at its best.

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[cooky560]

I can understand it with speakers, they move and can loosen from the factory. But WiiM is a digital device with no moving parts.

 

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I think it works in electronics . Almost all when new sound more bright

 

[onlyoneme]

Any evidence?

 

[steadyshot]

Any evidence?

None

 

[onlyoneme]

Why they do not exist? It shouldn't be difficult, for example capture twice the output when device is new, and again after few days/weeks/months, then the comparison and looking for differences which can prove something.

 

[steadyshot]

Why they do not exist? It shouldn't be difficult, for example captured twice the output when device is new, and again after few days/weeks/months, then the comparison and looking for differences which can prove something.

My guess is that is subtle and nobody cares. On top of that it will happen with use so there is no choice on that

 

[Smartplug]

This myth of burn in is just hilarious. To those who believe them don’t stop the burn in till it reach 100,000 hours and by that time your device is fully broken.

 

[Smartplug]

I think it works in electronics . Almost all when new sound more bright

I have auditions countless sound system ranging from 100 to 100,000. The sounds from the first time I heard them till the time it stop functioning was same. As for the price range from decent price to exotic was not mind blowing performance uplift. Exotic price will just get you that remaining 10 percent. I have yet to see or hear a device that will take my soul in heaven. For instance, speaker cone using exotic material sound a little better or not at all in contrast with paper cone. It’s the implementation that matters the most.

 

[Wiimer]

It's the same as sanding a freshly bought Levi's. I don't.
I like to enjoy the natural deterioration over time.

 

[Wiimer]

My first read was "defloration", sorry ;-)

What's the situation?

Sorry, I was talking about speakers. I've never thought about Wiim burn-in.

 

[gwing]

My position is that I remain agnostic on this issue . Is there a rigorous proof for the contrary ? Don’t put the angry faces to my posts please…come on

There are actually good reasons to believe in this burn-in theory. I recommend burning in for *at least* 5000 hours before coming to any conclusions or making any other changes which might alter your system and destabilise the burn-in patterns. That should ensure you don't waste money purchasing mythical products or upgrades that make no sonic difference for a good long time

 

[steadyshot]

There are actually good reasons to believe in this burn-in theory. I recommend burning in for *at least* 5000 hours before coming to any conclusions or making any other changes which might alter your system and destabilise the burn-in patterns. That should ensure you don't waste money purchasing mythical products or upgrades that make no sonic difference for a good long time

Is your name Russel or Teapot?

 

[Wiimer]

There are actually good reasons to believe in this burn-in theory. I recommend burning in for *at least* 5000 hours before coming to any conclusions or making any other changes which might alter your system and destabilise the burn-in patterns. That should ensure you don't waste money purchasing mythical products or upgrades that make no sonic difference for a good long time

Is that method effective for me?
I can't stop shopping a new WiiM every time it's released.

 

[BowsAndArrows]

Why they do not exist? It shouldn't be difficult, for example capture twice the output when device is new, and again after few days/weeks/months, then the comparison and looking for differences which can prove something.

If I remember correctly some work has been done in measuring the subatomic changes in conductors/dielectrics after currents have been flowing through them. If I find it again I'll post it here. But it makes sense that these physical changes can cause conductors to change in behaviour over time (albeit in a subtle manner) even using traditional cable metrics - inductance, capacitance, impedance...

In the mean time, here's a snake oil salesman to explain the concept as it applies to power cables. Full video is worth a watch!!

Similarly crystal oscillators also can have an adjustment period because the crystals physically change shape during their normal functioning, and so it's similar to a break-in of your speaker drivers...

I'm not sure why but people seem to forget that there are still physical and chemical processes underlying all of our electronics.

 

[BowsAndArrows]

Is that method effective for me?
I can't stop shopping a new WiiM every time it's released.

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If you didn't buy every WiiM, then we'd have to petition the mods to force you to give up that username!

 

[gwing]

If I remember correctly some work has been done in measuring the subatomic changes in conductors/dielectrics after currents have been flowing through them. If I find it again I'll post it here. But it makes sense that these physical changes can cause conductors to change in behaviour over time (albeit in a subtle manner) even using traditional cable metrics - inductance, capacitance, impedance...

Yes, there can be measurable changes in capacitors with burn in. But fortunately that burn in just takes fractions of, or a small number of, seconds so it happens straight away at first use without anything special being done

 

[jed1]

No need burn is needed since I only use Chromecast in and TOSLINK out. I already played more than 100 hours so it doesn't matter.

 

[Nikita]

The true myth is that measurements can measure what my auditory system can perceive. Measurements are very superficial tools that are useful when tuning a system, but no way to determine what gear to buy. The sound a system produces needs to connect with you auditory system and that is a much more advanced device for measuring true sound quality than an electronics device that can only look at aspects, not the entire sound image.

I’m trebly sorry for asking. Would you be able to point me to the source of the information?

 

[Brantome]

I’m trebly sorry for asking. Would you be able to point me to the source of the information?

I believe only a subjective opinion was being expressed in that response, not quoting from a source. I’m sure @D1N0 will correct me if I’ve misinterpreted their comment