Energy Consumption

[Wiimer]

Hallo, no Screensaver, no Clock, nothing at all, connectet via WLAN to net.
The Powermeter is not a commercial one and not calibrated, it is a consumer one, only for info.

Hi,
Thank you.

It is conceivable that an Ethernet connection could slightly reduce the power consumption, but the Ultra still consumes a lot of power.

The Ultra responds to screen touches even when it is on standby, so the sensor may be consuming electricity.

According to @onlyoneme's review, the Pro Plus was 2.6W.

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[Smartplug]

I currently pay around $0.15 for a kw/h

You must be living in republican state?

 

[Smartplug]

That's rather irrational, to say the least.

We’ve been on this forum for long time. We don’t agree on everything but we agree on certain things.

 

[slartibartfast]

You'd be suprised, I have a very cheap Microwave and on standby it uses almost 30w to light up the clock and open door button.

That is mad. Mine is 0.6W. It would cost £63 in the UK to run your microwave for a year if you never cooked anything in it.

 

[harkpabst]

We’ve been on this forum for long time. We don’t agree on everything but we agree on certain things.

True. We certainly disagree regarding this topic, which is not at the heart of this hobby.

 

[mach]

It's 5W here. Almost no difference when on so one could say it's an "always on" device.

While in line with some others like Sonos, it seems too much in this day and age. I'm considering adding automation to cut power but the 12v trigger is too noisy right now.

 

[lostinmusic]

If I've read things right, audio equipment sold in the EU shouldn't consume more than 1w in standby. New regs next year will reduce that to 0.5w. https://www.bytesnap.com/news-blog/eu-standby-power-rules-changes/

 

[Burnside]

If I've read things right, audio equipment sold in the EU shouldn't consume more than 1w in standby. New regs next year will reduce that to 0.5w. https://www.bytesnap.com/news-blog/eu-standby-power-rules-changes/

“From 2027, network-connected devices must not consume more than 2 to 7 watts, depending on the type of product.”

See similar discussion around this link

https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/wiim-amp.1322/post-27567

 

[slartibartfast]

“From 2027, network-connected devices must not consume more than 2 to 7 watts, depending on the type of product.”

I am not sure what that means. It also says
"Consumer Electronics: Devices such as set-top boxes, routers, and modems, which often remain in standby mode, ensuring they are ready for immediate use, must now reduce their energy consumption to meet new standards."

 

[hgo58]

These regulations are already in effect just with a higher maximum. I guess the WiiMs are classified as high network availability, else they would not be allowed with a standby 5W consumption.

"Devices without an information or status display may consume a maximum of 0.5 watts in standby mode. By contrast, electrical devices with an information display - for the time, for example - are subject to a maximum of one watt. For devices with high network availability (HiNA devices) or corresponding functions, a limit of eight watts applies. Other networked devices must remain below a value of two watts since 2019."

EUR-Lex - 02008R1275-20210301 - EN - EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

 

[Smartplug]

Is the 5W standby when the display is on? If it’s turn off would you get .5W?

 

[hgo58]

Is the 5W standby when the display is on? If it’s turn off would you get .5W?

See answer #10

 

[slartibartfast]

These regulations are already in effect just with a higher maximum. I guess the WiiMs are classified as high network availability, else they would not be allowed with a standby 5W consumption.

"Devices without an information or status display may consume a maximum of 0.5 watts in standby mode. By contrast, electrical devices with an information display - for the time, for example - are subject to a maximum of one watt. For devices with high network availability (HiNA devices) or corresponding functions, a limit of eight watts applies. Other networked devices must remain below a value of two watts since 2019."

EUR-Lex - 02008R1275-20210301 - EN - EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

Do WiiM devices meet this definition?

"networked equipment with high network availability’ or ‘HiNA equipment’ means equipment with one or more of the following functionalities, but no other, as the main function(s): those of a router, network switch, wireless network access point, hub, modem, VoIP telephone, video phone; "

 

[hgo58]

@RyanWithWiim @WiiM Team What is the official power consumption in standby for the WiiM devices?

 

[Wiimer]

@slartibartfast,

I found this in the URL posted by @henninggodske, would WiiM apply?
(I'm not sure...)

The power consumption of other networked equipment in a condition providing networked standby into which the equipment is switched by the power management function, or a similar function, shall not exceed 6,00 W.

EUR-Lex - 02008R1275-20210301 - EN - EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

(e)
Power consumption in a condition providing networked standby:

The power consumption of HiNA equipment or equipment with HiNA functionality in a condition providing networked standby into which the equipment is switched by the power management function, or a similar function shall not exceed 12,00 W.

The power consumption of other networked equipment in a condition providing networked standby into which the equipment is switched by the power management function, or a similar function, shall not exceed 6,00 W.

The power consumption limits as stipulated in point (e) shall not apply to:

(i)
printing equipment with a power supply of a rated power larger than 750 W;
(ii)
large format printing equipment;
(iii)
tele-presence systems;
(iv)
desktop thin clients;
(v)
workstations;
(vi)
mobile workstations;
(vii)
small-scale servers;
(viii)
computer servers.

 

[Smartplug]

@slartibartfast,

I found this in the URL posted by @henninggodske, would WiiM apply?
(I'm not sure...)

The power consumption of other networked equipment in a condition providing networked standby into which the equipment is switched by the power management function, or a similar function, shall not exceed 6,00 W.

EUR-Lex - 02008R1275-20210301 - EN - EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

We will get the definite answer on post 34. We will see what will they say since this is their product.

 

[Smartplug]

As the global population raise so does the energy needed. We all aware the importance of clean energy but renewable is not enough to power global energy. I believe fossil fuel still needed till all these renewable producer keep up with the raising global population.

 

[SoFluffy]

There are always unintended consequences of regulations. I will wager that manufacturers will start including small display screens on devices that do not need them in order to bypass the mandated low power targets for devices without a screen.

 

[slartibartfast]

There are always unintended consequences of regulations. I will wager that manufacturers will start including small display screens on devices that do not need them in order to bypass the mandated low power targets for devices without a screen.

So the limit becomes 0.8W instead of 0.5W.

 

[RyanWithWiim]

@RyanWithWiim @WiiM Team What is the official power consumption in standby for the WiiM devices?

Hey all! I'll see what I can do about getting this information pulled together. It'll depend on some variables as you all have noted, but I'll let you know what I come up with after I've connected with engineering. Stay tuned.