HDMI ARC hijacking inputs

[hgo58]

I bought this TV to use the WiiM TV app. This is my setup.

TV
- Speaker output: ARC
- CEC: all on

WiiM
- Auto-sensing HDMI : on
- AOTO : off

When I play music on WiiM, turn on the TV and open the WiiM TV app, it works fine.

If I want to watch Youtube, stop the music on the WiiM and then press the YouTube button on the TV remote to play the video. The WiiM input will then switch to HDMI via auto-sensing.

If I get bored of YouTube, simply open the WiiM TV app and resume music on WiiM.

I don't use the TV's built-in speakers, so everything works fine.

Ok, so not the use cases that doesn't work.

 

[harkpabst]

I don't think it's so complicated.

I think it very complicated. Really. No joke.

I do interpret the "Automatically output audio to WiiM when TV is on" as the main use case switch.

So when "on" the WiiM shall always change to CEC ARC (external speakers) on the TV (if not already on) and select HDMI input on the WiiM. If the HDMI input is deselected the WiiM should just leave the TV as it is (auto-sensing can come into play here).

Absolutely and certainly not what I want (and luckily don't get).

The most important use case is having the WiiM putting out the TV sound, of course. But please understand that second most important use case is having the TV displaying whatever stuff but playing music from some other source through the WiiM. I absolutely do not want the WiiM switching back to HDMI just because the TV is on. Think about the WiiM Home app for Apple TV/FireTV/GoogleTV.

Even less do I want the TV to switch back to it's internal speakers automatically when it's on but the WiiM is playing some different source. That would be utter madness. With CEC off I would accept this to be the case when the WiiM device is in standby. With CEC on I would want the TV to wake up the WiiM .of course.

 

[hgo58]

I think it very complicated. Really. No joke.


Absolutely and certainly not what I want (and luckily don't get).

The most important use case is having the WiiM putting out the TV sound, of course. But please understand that second most important use case is having the TV displaying whatever stuff but playing music from some other source through the WiiM. I absolutely do not want the WiiM switching back to HDMI just because the TV is on. Think about the WiiM Home app for Apple TV/FireTV/GoogleTV.

Even less do I want the TV to switch back to it's internal speakers automatically when it's on but the WiiM is playing some different source. That would be utter madness. With CEC off I would accept this to be the case when the WiiM device is in standby. With CEC on I would want the TV to wake up the WiiM .of course.

That is not what I wrote.

It just shows how hard it is to explain, because we have different views of how it shall work in our use cases. I actually think my description would fit your case. I don't see where it would not.

 

[WiiM Team]

Recently I connected HDMI ARC output from my Sony TV to Wiim Ultra. Reason for that is that I have two more Wiim devices (Wiim Pro and Wiim Amp Pro) so I want to have surround from time to time (movie evenings with friends). But, whatever I do, whil TV is on, Wiim Ultra has HDMI input on. There is no way I can change to another input. When I change, after a while it returns to HDMI. Is there any way to make HDMI input and ordinary input - so actions what I do on TV do not affect Wiim, so I can turn the unit off or have permantently another input? Auto sense is off, any setting I could find on TV and on Wiim regarding HDMI is off. Am I doing something wrong?

Hi @ilorenci ,

Sorry for the inconvenience!
Could you please assist us by sending feedback through the WiiM Home app? To do so, go to the More tab and tap Feedback. Our engineers will review it promptly upon receipt.

Additionally, kindly disable the Auto-sensing feature for HDMI ARC in Audio Input settings via the WiiM Home app. This will prevent the WiiM device from automatically switching to HDMI input mode while the device is playing. The WiiM should not switch to HDMI ARC input when another input source is active.

To assist us in debugging this issue, could you please answer the following questions:

1. When the WiiM switches to HDMI input mode, is the TV playing at that time?
2. When the WiiM switches to HDMI input mode, is the WiiM playing from another input mode?