HDMI -> Full implementation / HDMI decoding in WiiM

[pjorgenunes]

Hi,

I confess my ignorance of how technichal difficult or even impossible this is. If anyone, knows if it is impossible, please let me know and I will "close" this request

WiiM HDMI input is, at present day, HDMI ARC.

Is it only a software change or even royalties to be payed to "hdmi" to make it HDMI AUDIO?

I once had my DENON 3910 via HDMI (PCM) connected to my AVR-4306.

I don't use HDMI ARC to TV (I use an optical in) but I would need / want / desire to have my Denon 3910 connected via HDMI to WiiM Ultra to pass PCM 2-channel audio till 192KHz/24bits via this connection, without any additional gear (audio converter, hdmi extractor, etc).

Is this anyhow possible? I would even pay a "small" payment to have this (should it be a royalty issue).

Thanks all.

 

[hgo58]

Hi,

I confess my ignorance of how technichal difficult or even impossible this is. If anyone, knows if it is impossible, please let me know and I will "close" this request

WiiM HDMI input is, at present day, HDMI ARC.

Is it only a software change or even royalties to be payed to "hdmi" to make it HDMI AUDIO?

I once had my DENON 3910 via HDMI (PCM) connected to my AVR-4306.

I don't use HDMI ARC to TV (I use an optical in) but I would need / want / desire to have my Denon 3910 connected via HDMI to WiiM Ultra to pass PCM 2-channel audio till 192KHz/24bits via this connection, without any additional gear (audio converter, hdmi extractor, etc).

Is this anyhow possible? I would even pay a "small" payment to have this (should it be a royalty issue).

Thanks all.

The ARC wires in the HDMI cable aren't the same as used for HDMI audio/video, so to extract the audio from the signal it will require that these wires are all connected and the hardware can handle the video signal. I don't think that is the case for the WiiMs?

 

[pjorgenunes]

The ARC wires in the HDMI cable is not the same as used for HDMI audio/video, so to extract the audio from the signal it will require that these wires are all connected and the hardware can handle the video signal. I don't think that is the case for the WiiMs?

Thank you. If wiring is different then that's not a possible road to take

But, with some search, I found this:

"You can think of ARC as a software upgrade to HDMI, not a hardware change. The magic is in how the devices communicate—not in the cable itself."

 

[Burnside]

Thank you. If wiring is different then that's not a possible road to take

But, with some search, I found this:

"You can think of ARC as a software upgrade to HDMI, not a hardware change. The magic is in how the devices communicate—not in the cable itself."

I’d believe @harkpabst on this, rather than Google

https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/newb-wiim-amp-and-hdmi-audio-without-a-tv.7479/post-132486

 

[hgo58]

I’d believe @harkpabst on this, rather than Google

https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/newb-wiim-amp-and-hdmi-audio-without-a-tv.7479/post-132486

This has been stated many times (also in this thread) and even though the HDMI cable is the same, the hardware needed is not.

This is one of the areas where the WiiM devices are not the same as AVRs.

 

[pjorgenunes]

I’d believe @harkpabst on this, rather than Google

https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/newb-wiim-amp-and-hdmi-audio-without-a-tv.7479/post-132486

Google is just a means (it actually was copilot ) but it gets info from somewhere

Example:

Difference between HDMI and HDMI ARC and eARC

This blog tells the difference between HDMI and HDMI ARC and eARC, and how 8K HDMI 2.1 AOC-Active Optical Cables enhance your audio-visual experience.

www.aocfiberlink.com

 

[Burnside]

I personally see CoPilot and its bedmates currently as a step down from Google as in my experience they’re liable to take information out of context and tend to put the information across in a confident manner that people tend to believe without any critical inspection. At least with Google I can sift thru results and decide myself what’s relevant and what isn’t.

In your link I don’t see anything that supports your previous quote that hdmi arc is only a software change. I still stand by @harkpabst’s assertion given their background as an electrical engineer as I recall.

 

[pjorgenunes]

I personally see CoPilot and its bedmates currently as a step down from Google as in my experience they’re liable to take information out of context and tend to put the information across in a confident manner that people tend to believe without any critical inspection. At least with Google I can sift thru results and decide myself what’s relevant and what isn’t.

In your link I don’t see anything that supports your previous quote that hdmi arc is only a software change. I still stand by @harkpabst’s assertion given their background as an electrical engineer as I recall.

copilot has links to follow upon it's responses. I lost the link where that statement was, but it might be a wrong statement.

If it's an hardware issue so it is