Home music share search

[nightrhyme]

Hi

Wiim app really need the ability to search "Home music share". And its definitely possible as IOS Mconnect app can do this.

Hope this feature is implemented soon.

Thank you in advance

 

[Mr Ee]

the best implementation I've seen is in MinimServer (the paid version) as it allows the user to define the threshold above which the alphabetical grouping will be displayed, on a per tag/index basis. I find this invaluable because if I were viewing the Album index without having made any previous selections (viewing ALL albums) then I'd definitely want the alphabetical grouping, but if I've already chosen an AlbumArtist then I want to see all their albums in chronological order

I can get oh so close to this using minimserver free and bubbleupnp.
e.g. album view can give a letter 'popup', for want of a better word, when dragging the scrollbar for some sort options.
Using Artist view then chosing an artist then choosing albums can be sorted by year.
The little frustration is that the sort options don't seem to be 'sticky' per view. Moving between the different screens seems to sometimes pick up an option chosen in a different screen, and sometimes not. I've not worked out a pattern yet.
However, it's only a couple of screen taps to sort each screen as I want, so... the free version of minimserver works well enough for me!

 

[simbun]

You are right. I just installed the MinimServer basic version. It is very nice indeed. Thank you so much for recommending it. I will consider getting the paid version.

Make sure you use the trial of the full version first to see if it's worth it to you, but I've been using it for more than 10 years so can attest to its robustness and value.
There is a LOT of great documentation, but I've seen new users get put off from its very basic configuration editor, so if you feel a little overwhelmed ask for help on the forum as the author is very responsive, as are other members - I'll keep an eye out for you

 

[simbun]

I can get oh so close to this using minimserver free and bubbleupnp.
e.g. album view can give a letter 'popup', for want of a better word, when dragging the scrollbar for some sort options.

The OP was asking for such functionality through the WiiM app, my suggestion was aimed at delivering that, but you're right, control points (including mconnect that was the OP's current control point of choice) can offer this functionality.

Using Artist view then chosing an artist then choosing albums can be sorted by year.

Again you're right, but rather than just be sorted by year I'd like the Album name to be prefixed with the original release year (and more), so I use the Album.displayFormat:

Album.displayFormat={$OriginalDate^^ - ^$Album^^^$Boxtitle^ (from the boxset '^')^$Release^ (^)^$RemasterDate^ [^ Remaster]^}

Which for a remaster in a boxset looks something like:
1963 - With The Beatles (from the boxset 'The Beatles In Mono') [2009 Remaster]

The little frustration is that the sort options don't seem to be 'sticky' per view. Moving between the different screens seems to sometimes pick up an option chosen in a different screen, and sometimes not. I've not worked out a pattern yet.

I've just had a quick look, and the only items you can sort in BubbleUPnP are tracks (outside of an album) and albums (everything else in an index which is alphabetical - at least with the free version of MinimServer), and as far as I know if you change the sort order it sticks for at least that session.

the free version of minimserver works well enough for me!

I'd imagine the free version is enough for 90% of people, it's really for those that have extensive tags or want to tailor the experience and it's amazing what can be achieved. I'm not going to hard sell, but if you wanted to know what's possible I can attach a few pics if desired.

 

[Mr Ee]

I'm usually too lazy to even fire up bubble if I'm already in a streaming app, so unless I specifically want to listen to something the services don't have, I just play "my" stuff from the services as I've usually already got them saved as favourites.

 

[ceefcee]

I use Conceiva Mezzmo Pro Streaming server from a Win10 PC. WiiM cannot search the Home Music Share, which is a dissapointment.

 

[Brantome]

I use Conceiva Mezzmo Pro Streaming server from a Win10 PC. WiiM cannot search the Home Music Share, which is a dissapointment.

Can‘t you stream from the Windows PC (or the server’s web interface) using your WiiM device as a upnp player? If a feature isn’t available in the WiiM Home app, or if your server doesn’t appear to support UpNP search as others do, then it’s often possible to use teh WiiM device as a player rather than using the WiiM app as a control point.

Edit: can you use another client app like BubbleUPNP on android or mConnect on ios to search on Mezzmo?

 

[Brantome]

I use Conceiva Mezzmo Pro Streaming server from a Win10 PC. WiiM cannot search the Home Music Share, which is a dissapointment.

You should also submit a ticket to WiiM thru the WiiM Home app settings/ feedback section when you hit the problem so WiiM can examine your device logs for clues as to why Mezzmo doesn’t seem to accept search requests from WiiM as other UPNP/DLNA servers do.

 

[ceefcee]

Hi, it's filtering your browsed media content on your mobile device. It's different from the search capability provided by the media server. We'll add this to work around the missing search capability on some media servers. Please stay tuned!

Has there been any progress on implementing this Home Music Share search, please ?

 

[ceefcee]

thank you for reply

No nothing happens when you try search from wiim app it just hangs forever
And the response is instant in Mconnect. So it should be possible for for wiim developers to implement

I read a thread elsewhere, I cant seem to find again, with a user complaining about the inability to search his NAS server so thought it was a genreal problem.

In the wiim help section:

Search music contents on DLNA server Print​

Modified on: Tue, May 30, 2023 at 4:01 PM

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Some music media servers don't support search capability. To play music files on your server, you can use other media servers like Serviio, Minimserver, twonkey, etc.

But again. Since Mconnect can, the problem shouldn't be severside...

Twonky also does not work with WiiM Home Music Share search.

 

[nightrhyme]

As previously stated in the thread the problem doesn’t lie with Wiim but with the server. The solution is to use minimserver. I do. It works perfectly.

MinimServer 2

minimserver.com

 

[slartibartfast]

As previously stated in the thread the problem doesn’t lie with Wiim but with the server. The solution is to use minimserver. I do. It works perfectly.

MinimServer 2

minimserver.com

A solution is to use Minim server. There is more than one way to skin a cat

 

[ceefcee]

As previously stated in the thread the problem doesn’t lie with Wiim but with the server. The solution is to use minimserver. I do. It works perfectly.

MinimServer 2

minimserver.com

Apologies, @nightrhyme ..... I misunderstood previously. I confirm that MinimServer is now working for me & Home Shares are searchable. Many Thnks. Happy new year.