Individual fixed volume settings for outputs

[SidV]

I was just about to buy a Wiim ultra until I came across the following problem:
We need to connect our large active speakers via an external DAC to the Wiim toslink output and then set the output volume in the Wiim at %100 (fixed volume). However, we also want to connect desktop active monitors to the Wiim itself using its analog outputs (for a different listening scenario). The problem is that the fixed volume setting is universal across all outputs. If someone happens to forget to turn off the fixed volume setting and then puts on headphones or uses the desktop speakers connected to the line out then there will be a big problem: either damage to equipment or hearing loss. This seems to be a serious issue which has to be addressed and I know that it has been talked of before on this forum.
My question is will this be addressed in the future or is there a technical reason or hardware limitation which stops individual fixed volume settings for outputs being implemented?

Many thanks.

 

[hgo58]

Have a look at the other threads in the forum discussing this. For eksempel the thread 'Fixed Volume Control Output Specific' https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/fixed-volume-control-output-specific.4298/

 

[SidV]

Many thanks.
I did read that thread already, but it doesn’t answer my question! Hence this new thread.

 

[hgo58]

Many thanks.
I did read that thread already, but it doesn’t answer my question! Hence this new thread.

I don't think anyone in the forum can really answer your question.

Maybe better to raise a ticket to WiiM via the WiiM Home App "Feedback" option?

 

[Valentino]

Why do you need to put the Ultra volume to fixed when using your main speakers?

 

[Burnside]

Surely that’s where smart presets come in? If you define the audio output and volume in a smart preset and assign it to a preset button on the remote, a single button press takes care of both settings for you. Just set up a smart preset for each scenario

 

[SidV]

Why do you need to put the Ultra volume to fixed when using your main speakers?

Because the DAC will receive a bit perfect stream at %100 volume.

 

[SidV]

Surely that’s where smart presets come in? If you define the audio output and volume in a smart preset and assign it to a preset button on the remote, a single button press takes care of both settings for you. Just set up a smart preset for each scenario

Great, thank you. I will look into that. Cheers.

 

[Valentino]

Because the DAC will receive a bit perfect stream at %100 volume.

I see. Does fixed sound better to you?
Good idea by @Burnside btw.

 

[SidV]

I see. Does fixed sound better to you?
Good idea by @Burnside btw.

I listen to classical music with a high dynamic range. At low volume levels I sometimes do hear a reduction in the overall sound quality (stereo image, reverb trails, etc.). I also wanted to avoid having to have two different devices controlling the volume.

 

[Valentino]

I listen to classical as well, Mahler and such, and I use digital volume in the Ultra. That said I do use the full range for some Mahler recordings, peaking at 107 dB in the listening position.

 

[Mr Ee]

I think (will need to check / confirm) that 100% volume but not fixed is still bit perfect (with no other settings to prevent that).
You may still want/need presets for your different outputs, but I don't think you need fixed for your main speakers.

 

[Burnside]

I think (will need to check / confirm) that 100% volume but not fixed is still bit perfect (with no other settings to prevent that).
You may still want/need presets for your different outputs, but I don't think you need fixed for your main speakers.

Volume and bit perfect wise I shouldn’t think there’s a difference between fixed and 100%, fixed just means (to me) that you can’t change it using the slider accidentally or otherwise.

 

[Burnside]

Volume and bit perfect wise I shouldn’t think there’s a difference between fixed and 100%, fixed just means (to me) that you can’t change it using the slider accidentally or otherwise.

I’ll perhaps qualify that or maybe even change my mind Maybe it’s like EQ off v flat EQ which aren’t the same as the latter has gone thru some maths/dsp that might introduce some errors. Maybe we need WiiM to produce the definitive statement on it…

 

[Wiimer]

I’ll perhaps qualify that or maybe even change my mind Maybe it’s like EQ off v flat EQ which aren’t the same as the latter has gone thru some maths/dsp that might introduce some errors. Maybe we need WiiM to produce the definitive statement on it…

Don't you remember @onlyoneme testing about it? (My memory is hazy...)

If I'm not mistaken, fixed volume and 100% volume are the same.

 

[Burnside]

Don't you remember @onlyoneme testing about it? (My memory is hazy...)

If I'm not mistaken, fixed volume and 100% volume are the same.

Your memory is better than mine