Line In/Coax Out with the same device

[optimusComposite]

I just got a new Pro Plus and pairing it with my AS501 amp. I currently have a bunch of things connected to the AMP (TTs, CD, DJ mixer and optical from TV).

The amp is connected to my only set of passive speakers via RCA. I am looking to pass the coax out from the wiim to the coax in of the amp while also passing an RCA out from the amp to the Line in of the wiim. Reasoning that I can pass my streaming output to the amp and therefore main speakers, and I can pass any of the above amp select inputs to the wiim and broadcast to external mini echos(via multiroom? I'm still figuring this out).

Is there a problem with this setup? Any sort of feedback/loop problems I'll encounter? of course inputs and outputs can work simutaneously but to the same device? The Wiim is currently fixed and prefer to control all volume(and signals) from the amp. Feel free to call me dumb but I'm trying to wrap my head around if this setup makes sense.

 

[harkpabst]

The amp is connected to my only set of passive speakers via RCA.

Passive speakers connected via RCA? Are you sure about that?

I am looking to pass the coax out from the wiim to the coax in of the amp while also passing an RCA out from the amp to the Line in of the wiim. Reasoning that I can pass my streaming output to the amp and therefore main speakers, and I can pass any of the above amp select inputs to the wiim and broadcast to external mini echos(via multiroom? I'm still figuring this out).

This is generally doable. You just need to use an RCA output of the amp that provides the necessary signal. If you want to be able to play music in the other room only, the speakers off switch will do.

Line 2 and Line 3 both have a REC output. Since there is no separate record selector I assume that both output the signal of the currently selected source. The REC output is at a fixed volume, so you will have to control the volume in the other room from the Mini's volume slider in the WiiM Home App.

There's no danger of unwanted feedback, don't worry. This setup makes only sense when streaming the sources connected to the amp directly, of course. That's not a limitation, because grouping the WiiM Pro Plus and the WiiM Mini allows to distribute any streaming music anyway.

 

[Mr Ee]

Is there a problem with this setup?

Welcome.

One springs to mind.
If the AS501 amp is the "source" (as far as the pro plus is concerned) of a signal then it will send the sound to the speakers and to the pro plus at the same time.
The pro plus being in multiroom will add a delay to the signal, i.e. the other rooms / speakers won't be in sync with the main speakers attached to the AS501.

 

[optimusComposite]

Passive speakers connected via RCA? Are you sure about that?

Whoops lol. Just to speaker terminals. Too many connections to think about.

This is generally doable. You just need to use an RCA output of the amp that provides the necessary signal. If you want to be able to play music in the other room only, the speakers off switch will do.

Yup this is what I figured. Some independence.

Line 2 and Line 3 both have a REC output. Since there is no separate record selector I assume that both output the signal of the currently selected source. The REC output is at a fixed volume, so you will have to control the volume in the other room from the Mini's volume slider in the WiiM Home App.

Makes sense. I don't mind that.

There's no danger of unwanted feedback, don't worry. This setup makes only sense when streaming the sources connected to the amp directly, of course. That's not a limitation, because grouping the WiiM Pro Plus and the WiiM Mini allows to distribute any streaming music anyway.

Ah thanks

 

[optimusComposite]

If the AS501 amp is the "source" (as far as the pro plus is concerned) of a signal then it will send the sound to the speakers and to the pro plus at the same time.
The pro plus being in multiroom will add a delay to the signal, i.e. the other rooms / speakers won't be in sync with the main speakers attached to the AS501.

This is a good point. How much delay do you presume? I feel that the rooms are of considerable separation, they don't mesh enough to cause noticeable delay

 

[Mr Ee]

This is a good point. How much delay do you presume? I feel that the rooms are of considerable separation, they don't mesh enough to cause noticeable delay

Can you choose the Group Audio Delay value for Line In in the Audio Input screen?
I can for line in on my Ultras, but not my Pro (not a pro plus).

Edit - strange, only 1 of my 3 Pros allows me to choose a delay for Line In, for the other two it's not available as an option.
None of them have anything plugged into their line ins.

 

[Wiimer]

Edit - strange, only 1 of my 3 Pros allows me to choose a delay for Line In, for the other two it's not available as an option.
None of them have anything plugged into their line ins.

Have you hidden the Line-in? The group delay for hidden inputs is not displayed.

 

[Mr Ee]

Have you hidden the Line-in? The group delay for hidden inputs is not displayed.

Maybe!
I certainly have no intention of using it

Edit: that was it, Line In was hidden on 2 of them.

 

[optimusComposite]

Can choose the Group Audio Delay value for Line In in the Audio Input screen?
I can for line in on my Ultras, but not my Pro (not a pro plus).

Yeah I have the option. Currently set high. I'm getting new cables, so i'll test this all when it arrives. Thanks for you help