Spotify Make your bet: with Lossless coming, will Spotify allow Roon native integration?

Will Roon integrate directly with Spotify Lossless?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • No

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • Total voters
    6
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SKApretto71

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I'm planning to trial Roon to validate the feedback of users and value (find it expensive at this stage) but one mayor drawback that is holding me back so far is the missing Spotify integration as streaming source. I know the work arounds, but looking for direct integration.

Was a nonsense so far, but with Lossless coming ... would you bet your 2 cents that integration will come anytime soon?
 
I think it’s more “will Roon implement Spotify native integration” which depends on whether there’s a suitable Spotify API and whether Roon would want or be able to attract Spotify users to its platform.
 
SKApretto71 said:
I was using the words as per the forum: https://community.roonlabs.com/t/can-i-use-spotify-with-roon/210728/2
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Which suggests there isn’t a suitable Spotify API. From looking into Roon a few years back, Roon give me the impression of demanding a lot in terms of how supported services should act and what they need to deliver to Roon, demands that I wouldn’t be surprised that some services find unreasonable. Services like Qobuz and Tidal probably were happy to accede to these demands to gain more market visibility and credibility, but conversely, bigger players like Apple, Amazon and Spotify perhaps don’t see what benefits it would bring them - indeed they probably ask themselves who is this minor player Roon? YMMV of course :)
 
started and remained with roon first and still for my stored music. that is the status. the integration of qobuz and tidal was even more than i 'needed'. it is a nice to have bonus. no idea if roon will create any for them significant financial benefit by adding spotify or amazon. apple music would be for sure a bit more appealing. but that is speculation only. of course. repertoire differences between the services are marginal and can be neglected. if i would only use streaming services and not having a big collection of stored music there would be no reason to pay for roon. agreed. till today i rely more on their algorithms than that from the services. (to dig in lyrion i am too lazy.)
 
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Burnside said:
Which suggests there isn’t a suitable Spotify API. From looking into Roon a few years back, Roon give me the impression of demanding a lot in terms of how supported services should act and what they need to deliver to Roon, demands that I wouldn’t be surprised that some services find unreasonable. Services like Qobuz and Tidal probably were happy to accede to these demands to gain more market visibility and credibility, but conversely, bigger players like Apple, Amazon and Spotify perhaps don’t see what benefits it would bring them - indeed they probably ask themselves who is this minor player Roon? YMMV of course :)
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Agreed, and this was the survey question: will Spotify be now interested in enabling such integration - providing APIs - and Roon interested to invest in one more provider integration due to the massive market share they have.
 
Burnside said:
Which suggests there isn’t a suitable Spotify API.
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This position, in my opinion, looks like an excuse invented many years ago and foisted on people with little knowledge of the matter. Spotify's API is one of the most advanced, and there are countless different services that utilize it in one way or another, including the open source project LibreSpot, which allows it to be used as a standalone player, a media library browser, and as a Spotify Connect device. Moreover, no one is stopping you from receiving metadata via the Spotify Connect protocol and then passing it on to some other software module.
But why? It's a perfect excuse to say: "they're" the ones who won't let us do this. And then just continue to change almost nothing in roon, but simply continuing to "certify" devices...
 
taravasya said:
This position, in my opinion, looks like an excuse invented many years ago and foisted on people with little knowledge of the matter. Spotify's API is one of the most advanced, and there are countless different services that utilize it in one way or another, including the open source project LibreSpot, which allows it to be used as a standalone player, a media library browser, and as a Spotify Connect device. Moreover, no one is stopping you from receiving metadata via the Spotify Connect protocol and then passing it on to some other software module.
But why? It's a perfect excuse to say: "they're" the ones who won't let us do this. And then just continue to change almost nothing in roon, but simply continuing to "certify" devices...
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Looks like Spotify have slammed the door on Librespot supporting lossless which would make Spotify even less attractive to Roon and other users

https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/1os2yf0/spotify_lossless_will_not_be_supported_by
 
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