Jack Dorsey hits Tidal with another mass layoff: "We need to build like a startup again"
The streaming music service, founded by Jay-Z, has been owned by Dorsey's Block for several years.
Tidal More layoffs at Tidal?
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Achim2025
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Amazon and Apple will be the only two which survive. And Spotify, because convenience will defeat sound quality more and more. The sound enthusiast's camp will remain a small bunch of nerds, like us. Tidal's new announcement is the next step in their agony. Qobuz and the Connect drama is only ridiculous. So interesting times for believers. And I think everyone has to accept, that 10 €/month for a streaming flatrate is a steal. Nothing else.
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And when they are they'll start cranking the cost up .... they've deep enough pockets to sustain the initial pain and looking for the payback in the future when they dominate the market.
WiiMer SJ
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Tech firms behave like untreated bulimics. I wouldn't worry about it unless you're an employee or an investor.Jack Dorsey hits Tidal with another mass layoff: "We need to build like a startup again"
The streaming music service, founded by Jay-Z, has been owned by Dorsey's Block for several years.fortune.com
As long as they make it past December 2024 I will win my bet against a former forum member.
I plan to hold some arbitrary new member responsible regarding the betting stake. I already made my pick.
And yes, 16,99€ for a family plan is a steal.
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Achim2025
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Since I am almost sure that there are family relationships, I think this is absolutely appropriate and legitimate!As long as they make it past December 2024 I will win my bet against a former forum member.
I plan to hold some arbitrary new member responsible regarding the betting stake. I already made my pick.
And yes, 16,99€ for a family plan is a steal.
Tidal already dropped MQA by long time... And i have to say that too many "supercazzola"* were written inappropriately pro or cons about it, mainly because its creators themselves...
* Feel free to search for the meaning of supercazzola...
It matters not to me. I used Tidal for a short while. Their recommendations were repetitive. Qobuz of course is very sparse indeed in terms of recommendations. Life is too short; I went with Roon (plus Qobuz). I couldn't trust Tidal not to serve up MQA tagged as FLAC, or, even worse, AAC.Tidal already dropped MQA by long time... And i have to say that too many "supercazzola"* were written inappropriately pro or cons about it, mainly because its creators themselves...
* Feel free to search for the meaning of supercazzola...
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Saponetto
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It's several years ago when I first stumbled upon Tidal and Qobuz.
Started with Tidal in 2020, and some months after I had my Qobuz account also.
Different streaming services for different customers indeed, Qobuz HiRes FLACs are great, but the availability is almost opinable and inconstant.
After Tidal officially ditched MQA the availability of good HiRes FLACs from the artists I'm interested in were noticeably increased and, last but not least, the monthly price -fell down-, matching what Spotify asks for its Premium 320Kbps tier.
Happy ending, after some years of cohabitation I am going to leave Qobuz for a single Tidal menage.
P.S. strongly waiting for a Tidal Connect for desktop app that would finally be able to work flawlessly with my Ultra and Pro+...
Started with Tidal in 2020, and some months after I had my Qobuz account also.
Different streaming services for different customers indeed, Qobuz HiRes FLACs are great, but the availability is almost opinable and inconstant.
After Tidal officially ditched MQA the availability of good HiRes FLACs from the artists I'm interested in were noticeably increased and, last but not least, the monthly price -fell down-, matching what Spotify asks for its Premium 320Kbps tier.
Happy ending, after some years of cohabitation I am going to leave Qobuz for a single Tidal menage.
P.S. strongly waiting for a Tidal Connect for desktop app that would finally be able to work flawlessly with my Ultra and Pro+...
Saponetto
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About which argoment?
All of us well know that lots of Hi-Res files available on streaming services are just oversampled versions of canonical 44.1/16 files, as we also know that some "tailored" emphasis are very often applied to available files and honestly this is a major argument about to distrust Tidal, but also Qobuz, being a very long time user of both services...
Did I forget something?
BK308
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Dude’s profile picture is the best lol
There is a lot of misinformation about MQA, mainly due to mystical aura the creators themselves wanted to give it. The resulting bad press did the rest.
Despite I'm not fan of MQA, I have to say that this video is very rough, uninformed and still rely on an urban legend...
To sum up:
- MQA had more sense when bandwidth was low
- it's lossless in audio band up to 22KHz
- six less meaningful bit of 24 are used to carry the ultrasonic part in a lossy compressed way
- not all it's feature have to be used at the same time
- MQA derived from hi-res masters are delivered in 48KHz 24bit form, the most significative 18bit of 24, stiil keep the sonic pcm part (<22KHz) untouched and the least significative six (usually lost in noise) are used to carry the ultrasonic part, that anyway doesn't have a lot of informations.
- 44.1KHz 16bit MQA files have the same pcm contents of correlated cd quality files they derived from, they differs only in a header that drives compatible dac to set the MQA custom antialias filter (it's better than many of classic dac filters)
- due to those files incapsulations, it's obvious that there's not bit per bit correspondence among a MQA and the corresponding flac but this it's not meaning that MQA it's lossy, it's just matter of misinformation...
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