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@canard and @Steve Woodhouse, gentlemen please calm down before any action needs to be taken.
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Pragmatist
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Wish you would have been so straight with this Monoxxx a few days ago
a classic...
you keep making fun of me openly, making me look like an idiot, pushing each other a little too easily to think so by suggesting that my written, auto-transcribed, clumsy expression would be voluntary etc..and there, the absence of just your first name would be an insult...justifying that you insult me outright..
funny..
but no big deal
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no problemo..
end for me...
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and I said what I could say about this little box
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Steve Woodhouse
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To be fair, I thought I was offering an olive branch (post 72) before it was thrown back in my face (post 73).
I'm always happy to keep the peace, to behave in a way that keeps the peace, and post in a style which isn't deliberately intended to wind others up.
And I'm happy to continue with that.
Canard will have to speak for himself, it would be wrong of me to speak for him.
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Thanks both. 
At least it doesn't seem to me that Mr Steve has the qualifications (talent) to educate others. I'm really so sorry. But don't be downhearted. You have the talent to blow up threads 
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This is a great talent
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eagledriver
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First let me apologize for not having read every post in this thread, but my own interest is in being able to bypass the Pro's ADC-DAC stages when the input is line (analog) input from a phono preamp and the output is line to my power amp (a tube amp that I designed and built myself).
I still want to use the Pro for other (digital) inputs. I've compared the DACs in the Pro and Pro Plus and can hear the difference, but since my main interest (for quality listening purposes) is the analog input from my turntable, I'm not too worried about the DAC. If I really cared about a DAC, I might go for something better, but the AK DAC in the Plus is already excellent.
The WiiM Pro is a very nice flexible device that provides a nice choice of inputs, including Internet music services like Tidal, so while I could separate the analog components out to a different preamp/control amp, the convenience is of WiiM is great and I'd rather not sacrifice that convenience for what might be insignificant sound quality.
Anyway, I haven't see the circuit topology of the Pro, so don't know if I'd lose the volume control if ADC-DAC were completely bypassed (pretty sure EQ would have to go - that must be done in the digital domain). Does anyone know if this might be a feasible future software update?
I still want to use the Pro for other (digital) inputs. I've compared the DACs in the Pro and Pro Plus and can hear the difference, but since my main interest (for quality listening purposes) is the analog input from my turntable, I'm not too worried about the DAC. If I really cared about a DAC, I might go for something better, but the AK DAC in the Plus is already excellent.
The WiiM Pro is a very nice flexible device that provides a nice choice of inputs, including Internet music services like Tidal, so while I could separate the analog components out to a different preamp/control amp, the convenience is of WiiM is great and I'd rather not sacrifice that convenience for what might be insignificant sound quality.
Anyway, I haven't see the circuit topology of the Pro, so don't know if I'd lose the volume control if ADC-DAC were completely bypassed (pretty sure EQ would have to go - that must be done in the digital domain). Does anyone know if this might be a feasible future software update?
hgo58
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There is no way you can bypass the ADC for the analog input. The hardware cannot support that. And if it could you would lose everything, including the volume control. So it would basically be a wire through the WiiM.
Only the WiiM Vibelink amplifier supports that as it has analog volume control.
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I doubt that it could be achieved in firmware, but raise a ticket direct to WiiM via the more/feedback section of the app and get their opinion.
Thanks, I see that the Vibelink does allow the ADC to be bypassed. Unfortunately, it doesn't do anything else that I need.
Thank you, good suggestion. Probably right that it's not possible in firmware, but I'll ask.
hgo58
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What would be the benefits? It will just be like a wire running through the WiiM device.
The vibelink isn’t a streamer though, but a power amp with the option to choose an analog or digital input
A WiiM Pro or Pro Plus has other benefits that I like.
That's right, which is why it doesn't help me. I like having a streamer with analog and digital inputs, and I already have a very good power amp with analog input.
You cannot bypass the ADC after the analogue input of the WiiM Pro Plus, of course. But using the PocketADC you could connect your devices as follows:
Turntable analogue out == (RCA or symmetrical cable) ==> Phono pre-amp analogue in
Phone pre-amp analogue out ==(RCA cable)==> PocketDAC analogue in
PocketDAC optical out ==(optical cable)==> WiiM Pro Plus optical in
WiiM Pro Plus analogue out ==(RCA cable)==> Tube amp analogue in
Yes, that's a nice little device, but I'd like to avoid any domain conversion in the signal path from phono preamp out to power amp in - while still enjoying the benefits of the WiiM Pro (namely, ability to select from among several inputs (all digital, of course, including Internet music services).
About the PocketDAC, I promise to read other notes in this thread to see if anyone feels that it's greatly superior to the ADC in the WiiM Pro. I have other uses for an ADC that this product might be perfect for (and at a great price!). Consumer-priced ADCs are actually quite hard to find, most of what you see in high quality being professional gear costing $hundreds and $thousands and used in film and recording studios (and as test or laboratory gear). I've had a chance to measure the performance of the ADC built into my MacBook Air and it's really not bad at all. But a standalone ADC ... hard to find!
Just discovered this ADC from MiniDSP: https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/adept for $299. Built-in phono preamp! Very tempting! Too bad (1) I already have an excellent phono preamp, and (2) want to stay in the analog domain. My apologies if this device has already been discussed in this thread. I like these people at MiniDSP! It's on my short list for a future project.
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