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[MMeirolas]

Hello guys and gals,

I want to reduce my video and audio setups into one, making a Wiim device the center piece of it all.

This is what i'm looking for:

1- connect my TV (LG OLED C7) via HDMI to the Wiim.

2- connect my turntable (Dual 1229) to the Wiim phono inputs. I have a standalone phono preamp, but would like to sell it if possible.

3- connect my UHD Blu-ray Player (Panasonic UB424) to the OLED via HDMI, and coaxial/optical to the Wiim. This way i can listen to CDs without turning on the TV.

4- connect 2 passive speakers and a subwoofer to the Wiim. If the Wiim can simulate a center speaker, fine. If not i'd like to add a physical center speaker later. Sadly i don't think surround is a possibility with Wiim... Cuz that would be just perfect

5- listen through 2! pair of headphones when the daughter is sleeping. These can be wired or BT headphones (Dual BT transmitter?).

This of course without having to constantly plug cables in and out...

I think the only thing that could pose a problem for a Wiim Amp Ultra is number 4, so i am asking the experts here

Thanks in advance

 

[hgo58]

Hello guys and gals,

I want to reduce my video and audio setups into one, making a Wiim device the center piece of it all.

This is what i'm looking for:

1- connect my TV (LG OLED C7) via HDMI to the Wiim.

2- connect my turntable (Dual 1229) to the Wiim phono inputs. I have a standalone phono preamp, but would like to sell it if possible.

3- connect my UHD Blu-ray Player (Panasonic UB424) to the OLED via HDMI, and coaxial/optical to the Wiim. This way i can listen to CDs without turning on the TV.

4- connect 2 passive speakers and a subwoofer to the Wiim. If the Wiim can simulate a center speaker, fine. If not i'd like to add a physical center speaker later. Sadly i don't think surround is a possibility with Wiim... Cuz that would be just perfect

5- listen through 2! pair of headphones when the daughter is sleeping. These can be wired or BT headphones (Dual BT transmitter?).

This of course without having to constantly plug cables in and out...

I think the only thing that could pose a problem for a Wiim Amp Ultra is number 4, so i am asking the experts here

Thanks in advance

Regarding number 4:

Setting Up a WiiM Dolby 5.1 Surround Sound System

TABLE OF CONTENTS Learn More about WiiM Dolby 5.1 Surround System 1. Front Left, Front Right, and Subwoofer 2. Center 3. Surround Left and Surround Right Device Requirements and Typical Configurations Before You Begin Steps to Set Up a...

faq.wiimhome.com

 

[QuarryHunslet]

2- connect my turntable (Dual 1229) to the Wiim phono inputs. I have a standalone phono preamp, but would like to sell it if possible.

The Amp Ultra doesn't have a phono input, so you would still have to use your phono preamp, and connect it to the Line input.

 

[Burnside]

The Amp Ultra doesn't have a phono input, so you would still have to use your phono preamp, and connect it to the Line input.

A Wiim Ultra+Vibelink could provide a similar sounding setup that would have both a phono input and headphone output, albeit at an increased cost.

 

[MMeirolas]

A Wiim Ultra+Vibelink could provide a similar sounding setup that would have both a phono input and headphone output, albeit at an increased cost.

Yeah... That would be a bit expensive...
And to be honest, since my GF and the little one are moving in with me, i wanted to reduce the number of devices lying around... Using 2, 3 or 4 just to get surround seems a bit much

 

[harkpabst]

Yeah... That would be a bit expensive...
And to be honest, since my GF and the little one are moving in with me, i wanted to reduce the number of devices lying around... Using 2, 3 or 4 just to get surround seems a bit much

No, you don't need 2 WiiM boxes to get surround sound in this case. The WiiM Ultra (not the WiiM Amp Ultra) is the only WiiM with a phono input, but unlike the WiiM Amp Ultra it doesn't have a built-in power amp. The WiiM Vibelink Amp is exactly that, a power amp (not only) for the Ultra. You could hide it away in any convenient place, though.

The WiiM Ultra is also the only WiiM with a physical headphone output. Since Bluetooth is acceptable, that's not an issue in your case. You could also connect a dedicated miniature USB headphone DAC+amp to the USB-A port on the back. This works with every WiiM device featuring a USB-A port.

WiiM does support surround sound (Dolby Digital only), but this comes at a literal and figurative cost: more boxes. A virtual center is supported, but - as if now - no 3.1 configuration.

Setting Up a WiiM Dolby 5.1 Surround Sound System

TABLE OF CONTENTS Learn More about WiiM Dolby 5.1 Surround System 1. Front Left, Front Right, and Subwoofer 2. Center 3. Surround Left and Surround Right Device Requirements and Typical Configurations Before You Begin Steps to Set Up a...

faq.wiimhome.com

Setting Up WiiM Sound as Center and Surround Speakers in a WiiM 5.1 Surround Sound System

TABLE OF CONTENTS Before You Begin Setup Steps Step 1. Connect the Group Lead WiiM Device to Your TV Step 2. Connect the Group Lead WiiM Device to Your Subwoofer Step 3. Create a Multi-Room Setup in the WiiM Home App Step 4. Adjust Dolby 5...

faq.wiimhome.com

 

[MMeirolas]

No, you don't need 2 WiiM boxes to get surround sound in this case. The WiiM Ultra (not the WiiM Amp Ultra) is the only WiiM with a phono input, but unlike the WiiM Amp Ultra it doesn't have a built-in power amp. The WiiM Vibelink Amp is exactly that, a power amp (not only) for the Ultra. You could hide it away in any convenient place, though.

The WiiM Ultra is also the only WiiM with a physical headphone output. Since Bluetooth is acceptable, that's not an issue in your case. You could also connect a dedicated miniature USB headphone DAC+amp to the USB-A port on the back. This works with every WiiM device featuring a USB-A port.

WiiM does support surround sound (Dolby Digital only), but this comes at a literal and figurative cost: more boxes. A virtual center is supported, but - as if now - no 3.1 configuration.

Setting Up a WiiM Dolby 5.1 Surround Sound System

TABLE OF CONTENTS Learn More about WiiM Dolby 5.1 Surround System 1. Front Left, Front Right, and Subwoofer 2. Center 3. Surround Left and Surround Right Device Requirements and Typical Configurations Before You Begin Steps to Set Up a...

faq.wiimhome.com

Setting Up WiiM Sound as Center and Surround Speakers in a WiiM 5.1 Surround Sound System

TABLE OF CONTENTS Before You Begin Setup Steps Step 1. Connect the Group Lead WiiM Device to Your TV Step 2. Connect the Group Lead WiiM Device to Your Subwoofer Step 3. Create a Multi-Room Setup in the WiiM Home App Step 4. Adjust Dolby 5...

faq.wiimhome.com

Thanks for your reply but i'm a little bit confused...

You say i don't need 2 Wiim boxes, but then you say i could buy a Wiim Ultra and a Vibelink and hide one away

Or do you mean that i could save the phono preamp?

I read those websites but it is confusing as well, since it first starts by saying that for surround i need two or more Wiim boxes, and later it says that i can do a 3.1 with one box. Kinda strange...

I have a Fiio K9 headphone DAC/Amp which allows the connection of two active speakers. Maybe i could connect 2 of those for LR, and two to the Wiim Ultra? I would like to avoid active speakers since reliability seems to be a catastrophy, even with major brands like KEF and Klipsch, but if there is no other way...

I'm starting to think that i won't be able to get reliable 3.1 or 5.1 without investing in a AV Receiver

Cheers

 

[harkpabst]

You say i don't need 2 Wiim boxes, but then you say i could buy a Wiim Ultra and a Vibelink and hide one away

Or do you mean that i could save the phono preamp?

If you want to replace your phono input, you need two WiiM boxes in any case.

But it's not that you need two to get surround sound. You'd need more than two in the case.

The WiiM Amp Ultra is close to what you ask for, but lacking the phono input. Using an external phono pre-amp would occupy its one and only analogue RCA input.

 

[MMeirolas]

If you want to replace your phono input, you need two WiiM boxes in any case.

But it's not that you need for two to get surround sound. You'd need more than two in the case.

The WiiM Amp Ultra is close to what you ask for, but lacking the phono input. Using an external phono pre-amp would occupy its one and only analogue RCA input.

Yeah, i was eyeballing the Wiim Amp Ultra, but then i would have to live with 2.1 and a phantom center speaker... And nowhere near surround Sound

It's probably best to get an AV receiver

 

[MMeirolas]

Hello,

Bumping this again, sorry

I read the setups for 5.1 again, carefully.

Lets say i get a Wiim Ultra + 2 poweres speakers as fronts + 3 Wiim Sound/Lite as Center and RL/RR... I think i could live with this.

How bad would latency come into play?

I say a screen of the all where one could select i think 170ms, 500ms and 800ms. Don't remember the values correctly, but i know they were quite high.

Is it really that bad? I mean i will mainly use it for music and movies (not gaming), but still, it would be quite noticable for movies at least...

Has anybody such a system at home and can share their experience?

Edit: or could i set the delay on my other devices (TV, UHD Player, Shield Pro, Turntable not possible) so that it compensates for the Wiim delay? Those setting should be permanent then...

Thanks

 

[Ruediger]

2- connect my turntable (Dual 1229) to the Wiim phono inputs. I have a standalone phono preamp, but would like to sell it if possible.

If it's good enough to be sold, it's good I assume. If there were a phono-in I would have recommended to compare them before putting the pre-amp away.

The Dual 1229 is a real classic, congrats on having a working one.

If you need more than one analog-in with the WiiM and it's about turntable, tapedecks and such, I recommend a line switcher. Another little box unfortunately.

 

[MMeirolas]

If it's good enough to be sold, it's good I assume. If there were a phono-in I would have recommended to compare them before putting the pre-amp away.

The Dual 1229 is a real classic, congrats on having a working one.

If you need more than one analog-in with the WiiM and it's about turntable, tapedecks and such, I recommend a line switcher. Another little box unfortunately.

It's a Musical Fidelity LPS-V90. It's good but the question is if the difference is such that i'd notice a difference... Guess i'd have to test it.

Yeah, i love my white 1229 A friend of mine fixes them, so he disassembled it into it's last piece, cleaned and oiled it and put it back together. Now it's good to for another 50 years

I only have that turntable.

Still not sure what to do but i'm leaning towards just buying a regular 5.1 avr, a BT transmitter for two headphones and start with 3.1 passive speakers.

It is definetly cheaper than buying a Wiim Ultra, the BT transmitter and using active speakers for the fronts or be forced to buy an amp to attach to it.

If it's better? Can't say...