Possible to upconvert all music to higher bitrate?

[Nordvest]

Hi,

Wondering about buying and I have a dac that sounds way better in bitrates from 88.2 khz and upwards so I was wondering if Wiim-players have a way to upconvert all music to at least 88.2khz before it sends it to the dac?

 

[Mr Ee]

Welcome.
Yes, the output can be set to a fixed sample rate / bit depth.

e.g. toggle the final option to fix it

 

[Nordvest]

Welcome.
Yes, the output can be set to a fixed sample rate / bit depth.

e.g. toggle the final option to fix it
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Ah, excellent, thank you!

 

[Mr Ee]

Ah, excellent, thank you!

Which wiim were you thinking of?
I believe all but the wiim mini support fixed sample rates.
The others support it on all their outputs, optical, coax and usb where they have it, as far as i know.
At least, all the ones I have do.

 

[onlyoneme]

Welcome.
Yes, the output can be set to a fixed sample rate / bit depth.

e.g. toggle the final option to fix it
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And what happens if source sample rate is higher than the fixed one?

 

[Mr Ee]

And what happens if source sample rate is higher than the fixed one?

Downsample surely, just like if the (non-fixed) max is set to lower than the source.

 

[Nordvest]

Which wiim were you thinking of?
I believe all but the wiim mini support fixed sample rates.
The others support it on all their outputs, optical, coax and usb where they have it, as far as i know.
At least, all the ones I have do.

I was thinking about either the Pro or the Pro Plus. Any recommondations?

 

[onlyoneme]

Downsample surely, just like if the (non-fixed) max is set to lower than the source.

So it's not exactly for the scenario "88.2k or higher".

 

[Mr Ee]

So it's not exactly for the scenario "88.2k or higher".

Do you mean that wiim don't provied for 88.2, or are you driving at something else?

 

[Burnside]

Do you mean that wiim don't provied for 88.2, or are you driving at something else?

I think the suggestion is that only audio less than that should be upsampled

 

[HansD-NL]

It's always best to sent the native bit depth & sample rate of a particular file/track to a dac.

 

[Mr Ee]

I was thinking about either the Pro or the Pro Plus. Any recommondations?

Maybe depends on other useage.
e.g. the analog input (which is converted to digital) and analog output on the pro plus are both "better' than the pro.
But if all you want is (non-usb) digital out then I don't recall any evidence showing one is better than the other.

And I now understand what @onlyoneme is getting at!

 

[HansD-NL]

And what happens if source sample rate is higher than the fixed one?

The Wiim will output the rate/samples as you have set it. No switching, always the same.

 

[Nordvest]

Maybe depends on other useage.
e.g. the analog input (which is converted to digital) and analog output on the pro plus are both "better' than the pro.
But if all you want is (non-usb) digital out then I don't recall any evidence showing one is better than the other.

And I now understand what @onlyoneme is getting at!

Thanks, you`ve been really helpful! I think the Pro will probably be sufficient then as I will be using another dac.


I understand his point too, I would have preferred if it just upconverted sources less than 88.2, but upconverting everything to f.ex 192 would be preferable to upconverting nothing

 

[Nordvest]

It's always best to sent the native bit depth & sample rate of a particular file/track to a dac.

Not mine, the filter on 44.1-files are to steep I find, it cuts a bit of the highest frequencies, it does a much better job with 88.2 and higher files

 

[onlyoneme]

It's always best to sent the native bit depth & sample rate of a particular file/track to a dac.

Nope. That's why HQPlayer exists.

 

[Nordvest]

Maybe depends on other useage.
e.g. the analog input (which is converted to digital) and analog output on the pro plus are both "better' than the pro.
But if all you want is (non-usb) digital out then I don't recall any evidence showing one is better than the other.

And I now understand what @onlyoneme is getting at!

Does this upconvert setting apply also when you use the Wiim as a Chromecast, for Airplay, Tidal Connect etc or is it just when you use the native app?

 

[hgo58]

Does this upconvert setting apply also when you use the Wiim as a Chromecast, for Airplay, Tidal Connect etc or is it just when you use the native app?

Working for any input to any digital output.

 

[Nordvest]

Working for any input to any digital output.

Excellent, thanks!