Question about streaming Qobuz via WiiM Pro Plus

[ZoydWheeler]

hi all
This may have been discussed elsewhere, but I can't find it. I'm using Qobuz and WiiM Pro Plus. And I love it.
Question is this - is there a difference in sound quality output from using Qobuz from within the WiiM Home app versus from using Qobuz streamed to the WiiM Pro Plus via a Chromecast connection? (I personally cannot hear a difference, but that's not to say that one way is definitely BETTER than the other... )
Thanks for any insight and thoughts on this!
Adam

 

[Brantome]

Qobuz via the WiiM app delivers up to 24/192, while ChromeCast from the Qobuz app is capped by Qobuz at 24/96 because of stability issues (according to Qobuz). Hopefully the upcoming Qobuz Connect will do away with this cap

 

[ZoydWheeler]

Qobuz via the WiiM app delivers up to 24/192, while ChromeCast from the Qobuz app is capped by Qobuz at 24/96 because of stability issues (according to Qobuz). Hopefully the upcoming Qobuz Connect will do away with this cap

This answers my question perfectly, thank you. WiiM app it is then. Until the much-fabled Qobuz Connect arrives.

 

[ZoydWheeler]

In fact... even in a listening test... I've just played this same Goldfrapp tune via Chromecast and then directly from the Wiim app > and the HD difference is DEFINITELY audible.

 

[ZoydWheeler]

Interesting. So you hear a clear difference in the same (96 khz) track via WHA and Chromecast?

Yes! I imagine the difference must be produced by a loose connection in my brain somewhere.

 

[harkpabst]

You still didn't state what that loose connection made you prefer, did you?

 

[ZoydWheeler]

You still didn't state what that loose connection made you prefer, did you?

I prefer using WiiM Home. Because I can see the bitrates. And it pleases my brain.

 

[Mike]

I've just started trying to Chromecast Quobuz on a pro plus. It can't make it through one album without disconnecting. Perhaps it has an anti prog rock filter!
I've had no issues with the Wiim app in terms of reliability but it's not as nice to use as the native quobuz app, hence why I wanted to use Chromecast.
Is it this unreliable generally?

 

[d6jg]

Just adding that there is a third alternative which is Qobuz via LMS using the WiiM Pro Squeezelite client. This will give you 24/192 and gapless with no issue.

 

[Brantome]

Or potentially a fourth using BubbleUPNP and Qobuz?

 

[Mr Ee]

Or potentially a fourth using BubbleUPNP and Qobuz?

And a fifth... sort of.
Can't you share from qobuz to bubble?

 

[Mark Dirac]

I've just started trying to Chromecast Quobuz on a pro plus. It can't make it through one album without disconnecting. ...
Is it this unreliable generally?

Me too. Chromecast sounds fine, and allows me to use the native Qobuz app, but it's just so flakey. I guess it could be any one of

• The Qobuz app
• The Google Home app and associated Chromecast protocol stuff
• The WiiM Pro

or a combination of the interaction between any two of them.

Typical problems:

• playing stops
• what's actually playing, and what the Qobuz app says is playing, comes adrift.
• playing becomes uncontrollable 'cos Android reckons casting has stopped, even though the music continues
• the Qobuz app freezes with the pop-up "Connecting to WiiM Receiver", even though the music plays
• Chromecast icon doesn't appear in the Qobuz app

Sit down for much more than an hour of casting and one of these hassles will crop up, for me. I'm surprised no one else (other than @Mike ) has noticed this?

 

[JSA1971]

Perhaps it has an anti prog rock filter!

The odd time signatures in many of those songs must be causing an issue with bit rate playback

 

[D1N0]

I find the Qobuz output via the WIIM app much too sibilant and always use the Qobuz app. 192KHz is just a small minority of all the music on Qobuz and if I want to listen it I'll use LMS functionality. The difference between 96Khz and 192Khz is hardly audible anyway.

 

[aguzz132]

The main difference that I found playing Qobuz from the Wiim app is that I have gapless playback, which chromecast protocol through Qobuz app can't do.

 

[tony.mav]

Hi, I just opened my subscription to Qobuz... when I select the audio output it only offers me Google Cast, that is Chromecast with a maximum resolution of 24/96... why doesn't it see the Wiim with which I could have 24/192?

Qobuz through the WiiM app provides up to 24/192, while ChromeCast from the Qobuz app is limited from Qobuz to 24/96 due to stability issues (according to Qobuz). Let's hope that the next Qobuz Connect will eliminate this limit

 

[Burnside]

Please post in English.

Re your query, which has been asked several times before in the forum, that 24/96 is a limit imposed by Qobuz as they don’t believe Chromecast can consistently deliver anything higher than that. Also, Chromecast doesn’t support gapless playback.

You’ll need to wait for Qobuz Connect to be finally released whenever that might be, or use Qobuz from within the WiiM Home app to get 24/192. BubbleUPnP may also be able to do 24/192, but again, the Qobuz app can’t.

 

[D1N0]

Qobuz connect to be released and then implemented in the WIIM home app. It won't work automatically.

 

[Burnside]

Qobuz connect to be released and then implemented in the WIIM home app. It won't work automatically.

I don’t think anyone was suggesting that, especially given members’ experience with Tidal Connect

Edit: also, if the rumours are true, WiiM might be one of the first to support it so both both Connect’s release and WiiM’s support might happen at the same time