Quick and easy PEQ for room correction

[Yanto]

I’d like to try HouseCurve but can’t install it on my iPhone 7 Plus. Even though it’s up to date, it needs a newer version of iOS

 

[Brantome]

Asking for a friend, really, who bought a Pro Plus and does not like forums ;-)
No answer from me because lack of knowledge. Can this, his curve result in a recommended setting for WiiMs 4 band PEQ? At least as starting point. His main musical taste is what he calls Classic Rock. He uses the dac of the Plus what feeds a beautiful vintage Marantz monster receiver from the 1980s and my old Rogers Monitor Ones.

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HouseCurve can give you the 4 PEQ settings to install in the WiiM app - it’s ages since I used it so can’t recall the method.

 

[ProJules]

I am looking forwards to trying this app!

I have used a YouTube low frequency tone sweep video I have dialed down at a narrow bandwidth (42hz) so that the youtube tone sweep sounds even. (It was way too loud before)

As a 25 year career audio engineer (pop / rock music studios) I want to offer something to think about for those seeking a "flat" responce system.

If like me @ 63 years of age you have a degree of age (and for myself career) related hearing loss, "flat" might not be ideal.

You may want to boost frequencies that you are deficient in.

I do this, I know my high frequencies are low so I bost them.

I find it ironic that often people that spend a lot on top quality hifi rigs are in the later stages of life and almost certainly haven't a chance in hell to hear everything clearly on a "flat" system.

So this is just a short not to say that "flat" isn't everything. To hear "everything" some people will need to boost what they can't hear fully.

PS. It's easy to switch off my corrective p-eq for when people with better hearing are listening too.

Additional tip: For iPhone & AirPod users there is a fantastic work-around for the phone's sound output for folks with some hearing loss.

Download the Mimi hearing test App, do the test in a very quiet room and take the audiogram produced by the test and upload it into Apple Health via the headphone settings, in the accessibility / sound settings. This provides a corrective eq across the ENTIRE phones headphone OUTPUT! It's really terrific. Your headphones adjusted just for your hearing.

 

[Mr Ee]

But... but...
That's not the purist, audiophile way!

 

[ProJules]

Yeah but statistically 50+ audiophiles hearing isn't going to be "pure" anymore.

 

[merifon]

I’d like to try HouseCurve but can’t install it on my iPhone 7 Plus. Even though it’s up to date, it needs a newer version of iOS

Strange, I'm using it on a dedicated iPhone 6s, using an imm 6 microphone and taking a couple of averaged measures, one at right ear and other at left ear level, then corrected with mini PEQ, following suggestion of house curves.
It worked very well but soon I switched to Dirac, it becames another game...

 

[harkpabst]

My hearing loss is not pathological, but simply normal for my age and I am quite happy with what I can still hear. So I don't want my audio devices to remind me of a sound "from the past", I just want them to reproduce the recordings exactly as I would hear the original sound event right now if I were there.

Now please don't tell me that's wrong ...

On a side note, I don't want my Hi-Fi to be unlistenable to everybody else in the household.

 

[Yanto]

Strange, I'm using it on a dedicated iPhone 6s, using an imm 6 microphone and taking a couple of averaged measures, one at right ear and other at left ear level, then corrected with mini PEQ, following suggestion of house curves.
It worked very well but soon I switched to Dirac, it becames another game...

I’ve literally just tried to install it again and it says I need iOS 16.1 minimum. My phone is up to date and running iOS 15.8 so it just won’t install

 

[ProJules]

SOLUTION FOUND IN BELOW POSTS. Any tips for getting the Sweep tone to play out of the Wiim?

I have disabled fades and anything else I can think of...

Perhaps I need to set it to 44.1 k ? output? I dunno - I have emailed support. (nope tried that - didn't work)

the sleep tone plays out of my kitchen HomePod Mini's though!

But I DO have a lot of fancy external word clock gadgets attached between the Wiim and my converter.. that might be it...

 

[merifon]

I’ve literally just tried to install it again and it says I need iOS 16.1 minimum. My phone is up to date and running iOS 15.8 so it just won’t install

My 6s is at 15.x. I installed house curves time ago, maybe meanwhile they updated the app, changing prerequisites. I should keep in mind to not uninstall it...

 

[ProJules]

Well I selected the Wiim via Airplay - thats Bluetooth right? (I see no chrome cast possibility)
Thanks

 

[Brantome]

Well I selected the Wiim via Airplay - thats Bluetooth right? (I see no chrome cast possibility)
Thanks

No, Airplay isn't Bluetooth, they're different wireless protocols.

 

[Yanto]

My 6s is at 15.x. I installed house curves time ago, maybe meanwhile they updated the app, changing prerequisites. I should keep in mind to not uninstall it...

Yes I would not delete it if I were you as I really don’t think you could install it now on these older iPhones. Unless, because you have had it already it saves to the cloud?
Either way I definitely can’t get it.

 

[ProJules]

No, Airplay isn't Bluetooth, they're different wireless protocols.

Doh! Of course. It worked instantly!

Thanks so much!

Here is my 4 band PEQ advice (to a harman curve) - I will try it!

As the Wiim is limited to 4 bands - I set 4 bands inside the HomeCurve settings

 

[Nikita]

I did play around with it last week using the built in mic on both my iPhone and iPad but kept getting odd results - a peak in the treble with both my 3030i and wharfedale diamond 9.1. No equaliser set. View attachment 4896

I see the same weirdness in HouseCurve with my JBL A130 when using iPhone’s mic. Trebles are grossly exaggerated.

 

[ProJules]

It's helped me pinpoint some bass peaks that need to be tamed - Helpful as a guide. Will keep experimenting

 

[merifon]

I think is better to save PEQ bands available, for mid lower part of response, correcting room modes. I'll wouldn't take care about happening over 2KHz, better use some absorbing furniture for that or switch to more sophisticated correction system.

 

[harkpabst]

Here is my 4 band PEQ advice (to a harman curve) - I will try it!

As the Wiim is limited to 4 bands - I set 4 bands inside the HomeCurve settings

Looks pretty reasonable ... except that the +9.2 dB correction at 338 Hz would worry me a bit. It's not that narrow, but did you check that over slightly different listening angles?

 

[ProJules]

I have re evaluated my sub speakers frequency & volume. And re tested. I am still getting to grips with it. After the setting suggestions, I opened up the lower range all the way down to to 20hz which is not particularly wise as my systems low frequency most likely drops off sharply after 35hz (and I am not minded to make the huge boost at 30hz HomeCurve suggested!!!!)

So I will dial the range back up to 32hz (the lowest range of my sub) and try again.

 

[saberger1]

Solved, thank you. Should try it also.

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HouseCurve can give you the 4 PEQ settings to install in the WiiM app - it’s ages since I used it so can’t recall the method.

Where can I find these settings?