The competition doesn't sleep

EddNog said:
Okay, so here's how it goes with the S3...

When left in HDMI input, the S3 will turn on and turn off on its own based on signals from ARC/CEC. This is fantastic, and already beats Eversolo completely. Volume control via CEC also works fine.
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This is how it should be. It's not how WiiM is working. It will turn on no matter what input is currently selected. Hopefully this will change.
EddNog said:
When left in a different input, such as AirPlay, the S3 ignores all signals from ARC/CEC. This is a satisfactory arrangement.
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This is how the current WiiM HDMI beta firmware work with a special setting.
EddNog said:
For many people, the ARC functionality is something they only want to use occasionally, and this prevents ARC signals from being overly possessive of the S3 (some WiiM Ultra owners complain about this, although there is a switch to disable CEC takeover when other inputs are selected).
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The default WiiM firmware don't have this option yet.
EddNog said:
If the TV is being watched but another input is in use (such as AirPlay) and the S3 is switched back to HDMI input, it will pick back up on the ARC audio and function fine including volume control and power control.
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Again, this only works on WiiM beta version.

So the S3 developers seams to have got it right. I hope @WiiM Team will study and learn :unsure:
 
hgo58 said:
This is how it should be. It's not how WiiM is working. It will turn on no matter what input is currently selected. Hopefully this will change.

This is how the current WiiM HDMI beta firmware work with a special setting.

The default WiiM firmware don't have this option yet.

Again, this only works on WiiM beta version.

So the S3 developers seams to have got it right. I hope @WiiM Team will study and learn :unsure:
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This is your use case / perspective.
Mine is how it currently works. I want the WiiM to be taken over by ARC as soon and whenever I switch on the TV without having to mingle with any input settings.
But the way I understand it both will be possible with the new FW.
 
Fosi have same AKM dac as the Pro Plus... but just OPA1612 ( dual.. balanced output)(It costs them almost nothingbbut it has become a selling point ). .. (possibility of fitting opa1611 "single " on the pro Plus to replace the 5534s)
 
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hgo58 said:
So the S3 developers seams to have got it right. I hope @WiiM Team will study and learn :unsure:
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It's not "right" unless you can at least switch between both behaviours. If this isn't the case, then there's really nothing to learn from.

There's no reason to assume that the number of users expecting the WiiM devices to work exactly the same as a soundbar was smaller than those who want to use the ARC only from time to time. I'm all for making everyone happy, but not breaking it for the soundbar-like use case has highest priority for me.
 
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harkpabst said:
It's not "right" unless you can at least switch between both behaviours. If this isn't the case, then there's really nothing to learn from.

There's no reason to assume that the number of users expecting the WiiM devices exactly the same as a soundbar was smaller than those who want to use the ARC only from time to time. I'm all for making everyone happy, but not breaking it for the soundbar-like use case has highest priority for me.
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What I mean is that the option of controlling the HDMI connectivity done with the S3 is the additional setting needed in the WiiM.

I understand that the current option to work as a soundbar is important for many users but so are the option to only react to the HDMI TV connection when explicitly selected as input.
 
harkpabst said:
It's not "right" unless you can at least switch between both behaviours. If this isn't the case, then there's really nothing to learn from.

There's no reason to assume that the number of users expecting the WiiM devices exactly the same as a soundbar was smaller than those who want to use the ARC only from time to time. I'm all for making everyone happy, but not breaking it for the soundbar-like use case has highest priority for me.
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hgo58 said:
What I mean is that the option of controlling the HDMI connectivity done with the S3 is the additional setting needed in the WiiM.

I understand that the current option to work as a soundbar is important for many users but so are the option to only react to the HDMI TV connection when explicitly selected as input.
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Meanwhile in the Fosi forums:
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Literally cannot make everybody happy. :ROFLMAO:

-Ed
 
Cambridge, an old player in the audio industry... ;-)

S3 ...like "ultra" connectivite +sym,( but no headphone)..no screen..dac of "plus"

For anyone considering buying a Plus, or even an Ultra... the S3 raises more than a few questions... but here, the software aspect is so essential to our usage that Wiim's lead in this area poses "the question."
But..s3..airplay like " plus"..(not ultra..)

;-)

(S3 ...akm like "plus"
Cambridge more like ultra with ess sabre)



I'm mainly talking about the streaming part of the software from wiim...
because the abundance of audio functions etc. (not always fully developed) can almost be a """problem""":
a "basic" or "simplified" mode could be considered for some users who only want a simple "streaming" source...
I think a discussion on this point could be initiated...
Minimal audio... "like a CD player"... (possibly with only balance, mono , "-3db", functions ?)
 
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for me i wanted to add extra multi room speakers with stereo pairing options, the ultra amp blows away my old sonos 120 amp .. but sonos are not sleeping they know others are gunning for their crown and appear to have woken up ..

www.sonos.com

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Aquaman said:
Cambridge Audio have introduced the CXN100 SE. It now has HDMI eARC connectivity. (y)
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Unsure why they included eARC support on a 2-channel device. eARC provides higher-end multichannel support 7.1 LPCM and DTS:X and Dolby ATMOS, but does little additional for 2-ch 192khz Audio.
 
s3igell said:
Unsure why they included eARC support on a 2-channel device. eARC provides higher-end multichannel support 7.1 LPCM and DTS:X and Dolby ATMOS, but does little additional for 2-ch 192khz Audio.
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It’s backwards compatible with ARC, so it doesn’t hurt to have it either.

-Ed
 
While FOSI's lag behind Wiim's software seems considerable... it's still amusing to observe that the presence of XLR or "OPA1612" impacts the perceived audio quality, even though it's ultimately so close to the "Plus" version.
These details are so "marketable"...
Funny...

FOSI has clearly observed the "Plus" and "Ultra" versions of Wiim... with hindsight...
"S3 is a mix"
It's up to Wiim to see what happens with FOSI... "All's fair in love and war"
;-)
 
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