Using PEQ

If you start with the results of RC and modify frequency, gain and Q from there, no LS or HS filters will be used, just peak filters. :)

And this works really well.
With PK filters you can indirectly also achieve most LS or HS issues (if really needed)…
 
We have already asked the company to market a dedicated microphone like the DS speaker ?
 
In my room, the room correction produces strange results. You really have to be careful if the RC wants to add a few dB to certain areas.
So I wouldn't rely on it blindly. You have to check what the RC is doing.
What I mean is shown graphically here.
Measured with a UMIK-1 and REW.

WiiM Auto RC.jpg
Red is uncorrected.
What the Auto RC produced is shown in yellow.
And green is the correction calculated by REW.
 
What I mean is shown graphically here.
Measured with a UMIK-1 and REW.

View attachment 15328
Red is uncorrected.
What the Auto RC produced is shown in yellow.
And green is the correction calculated by REW.
The Auto RC does look pretty bad in that case.
Was that repeatable? You do need to look at the results to decide if they make sense or not.
 
What I mean is shown graphically here.
Measured with a UMIK-1 and REW.

View attachment 15328
Red is uncorrected.
What the Auto RC produced is shown in yellow.
And green is the correction calculated by REW.
To be able to judge the results you should at least specify what microphone was used in each case and which optimisation settings you choose in WiiM RC and REW.

Apart from that I see no reason for this thread to drift off-topic into yet another room correction thread when the original question was about how to use PEQ.
 
This is about the post by user Maurizio, who said that the Auto EQ works very well and that you can rely on it.
His statement cannot be taken as generally valid.
 
I think most of us realise that @Maurizio was expressing their opinion which is no less valid than any other comment made in the forum :)
I think it is in everyone's interest not to let the thread go off topic. I only backed up my statement with a measurement result and that should have been enough.


Was that repeatable?
Yes, on another day I had a similar result.
 
This is about the post by user Maurizio, who said that the Auto EQ works very well and that you can rely on it.
His statement cannot be taken as generally valid.
You see ,@LucAce , you should be more careful when reading posts.
I wrote :
" I’m using an IPAD with his mic and for me it works fine. I only use PK filters "
Never stated that it is something generally valid, although I could have written “ For me and for many others.” ;)
Merry Christmas
 
You didn't read and understand properly. This all relates to your first post in this thread.
 
Off we go again with personal niggles. Who'll show the greatness to stop here? It's Christmas. 🎄

Even a "bad" room correction result (either bad sounding or strange looking or both) can teach us something in the end. I do even recommend to start several RC runs in slightly different positions in the room to get a feel for how much some things change. This should also provide some inside into what can be expected from PEQ room correction and what we can't.

Many smartphone mics will show a very pronounced peak in the treble region, mostly somewhere between 7 and 11 kHz. If this shows up in all measurements, no matter in what position it was taken, it's an obvious evidence for the mic being at fault, not the room nor the speakers. This in turn should make very clear that there's no point in attempting full range automatic RC with this microphone.

At the other frequency extreme some phone gradually cut of frequencies below 60 Hz. Unfortunately, my brand new Xiaomi phone does it, my old one from 2 ½ years ago did not. When trying to run automatic RC covering a frequency range from lower than 60 Hz the result would be a massive bass boost (all because of the wrong measurement).

Trying to get anything useful out of manual PEQ without any measurements is very hard, as @slartibartfast already pointed out. But no matter how one wants to make use of it, the only way is to first get a concept of
  • how frequency relates to the pitch of a tone
  • how Q determines the broadness or narrowness of a filter and
  • how much or how little positive or negative gain is even perceivable at different frequencies.
And finally it's good to understand that positive gain needs additional power from the amplifier. Plus 10 dB of gain need ten times the amplifier power!
 
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Off we go again with personal niggles. Who'll show the greatness to stop here? It's Christmas. 🎄
After you provoked 6 off-topic posts with your last "moderating" post, the next dig follows? On Christmas Eve? 😂
A pattern can be seen.

(Couldn't resist your dig, even though it's Christmas 🙂)
 
I ask the question again: has Wiim not planned to market its own dedicated external microphone?
 
I ask the question again: has Wiim not planned to market its own dedicated external microphone?
I believe this was asked previously and the reply I gave then still stands - not that we’re aware of, nor is there really a need in my opinion when a cheap competent device already exists in the shape of the Dayton iMM-6C
 
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