What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?

[Brantome]

Hello everyone,

I'm searching infos for the Wiim Ultra and i find a new video but at the end, i found a picture.
Could you help me to know what is this wiim family ?

At 1min25sec, i see :

? / Wiim Amp / Wiim Amp / Wiim Ultra/ Wiim Mini / Wiim Remote / ? / Wiim Pro / Wiim pro +

Thank you

(Sorry for my english..)

The first is for the CI (custom installation) market and is likely a version of the Pro or Plus

 

[Fernandodelae]

WiiM please roll out a CD player or Transport at a decent price please!! There is a big hole in the market as the cheapest new cd players start from $350 used or more plus very expensive shipping rates.. A very good competitively priced cd player or transport to pair with a Wim amp, Pro, Ultra etc would make some of our lives a lot happier and easier..

I really believe that as Cds are grabbing traction worldwide, this would be a good market opportunity.

 

[Doublej]

WiiM please roll out a CD player or Transport at a decent price please!! There is a big hole in the market as the cheapest new cd players start from $350 used or more plus very expensive shipping rates.. A very good competitively priced cd player or transport to pair with a Wim amp, Pro, Ultra etc would make some of our lives a lot happier and easier..

I really believe that as Cds are grabbing traction worldwide, this would be a good market opportunity.

FYI Fosi is working on one...

Co-create the CD player

Hey guys, We've been getting a lot of feedback from users expressing the need for a CD player, and we're gearing up to develop this product in 2024. Currently, the CD player is in the early stages of functionality definition, and we'd love to hear your suggestions. Let's collaborate and create...

community.fosiaudio.com

 

[castalla]

Usb audio out allows for disc contents, metadata using win or Linux.

 

[harkpabst]

FYI Fosi is working on one...

Co-create the CD player

Hey guys, We've been getting a lot of feedback from users expressing the need for a CD player, and we're gearing up to develop this product in 2024. Currently, the CD player is in the early stages of functionality definition, and we'd love to hear your suggestions. Let's collaborate and create...

community.fosiaudio.com

Or maybe not anymore, looking at the very limited feedback ...

 

[castalla]

Here's my setup: usb dvd player input to Lyrion CD-play plugin. Audio can play to any endpoint.

 

[Jls]

The predictions for the future of the CD are not very optimistic, indeed. If one, like me, still owns a lot of CDs and for what ever reason likes the format and want to stay happy with it he or she should look at the 2nd hand market. Hardware AND software. It is still possible to get really good stuff for small money but the prices are increasing. Slowly, but steady. If one decides to stay solely with streaming he has not to care. But care is possibly not the core competence for streamers only.

Real time playing of CDs is problematic. There is no error correction built into the codec. When a player encounters an error it has no choice but to mute the sector or fill in.

If you rip a CD with EAC or dbpoweramp, you can guarantee a bit perfect result, which will remain perfect, even as you copy it from drive to drive. And no jitter.

 

[Doublej]

Or maybe not anymore, looking at the very limited feedback ...

Or maybe still?

Help Shape Our Upcoming CD Player for 2024

Hey audiophiles, We've noticed a growing interest in a CD player among our users, and we're excited to announce that we're starting its development in 2024. At this point, we're defining its core features and really value your input. Let's work together to bring this CD player to life! Attached...

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[harkpabst]

Or maybe still?

Help Shape Our Upcoming CD Player for 2024

Hey audiophiles, We've noticed a growing interest in a CD player among our users, and we're excited to announce that we're starting its development in 2024. At this point, we're defining its core features and really value your input. Let's work together to bring this CD player to life! Attached...

www.audiosciencereview.com

A little more activity over there, but still no clear picture what people would prefer, I guess.

 

[castalla]

For me, I'd be happy to see a well-made usb front-loader available in silver/white/black (with small remote). Lyrion can provide remote control and disc indexing. Perfect.

 

[Jls]

Ripped CDs for decades. And never had a faulty error correction in my hardware players. Sometimes CDs are scratched or so and went straight to the bin. Today it is a question of convenience if I play the stored files or the CD.
And to be honest, bit perfectness or jitter (which shouldn't be a problem for decent today's gear) isn't really a quality sign for me. My targets are different. But anyway, thank you for your response.

You bring up an interesting point. You never heard a fault on a CD unless it was so bad you considered it defective. That does not mean the player wasn’t silencing small defects.

There’s a lot of perfectionist BS in the audio hobby, but I think it’s reasonable to switch to newer technology when it adds value. Modern file formats, NTFS and such, eliminate copying and playback errors. And ripped files can be perfectly played with inexpensive equipment. So it’s a cost and convenience issue.

I understand there’s value in the process of handling objects. Books are nicer than Kindle.

 

[slartibartfast]

The predictions for the future of the CD are not very optimistic, indeed. If one, like me, still owns a lot of CDs and for what ever reason likes the format and want to stay happy with it he or she should look at the 2nd hand market. Hardware AND software. It is still possible to get really good stuff for small money but the prices are increasing. Slowly, but steady. If one decides to stay solely with streaming he has not to care. But care is possibly not the core competence for streamers only.

When I was using Tidal I would sometimes buy second hand CDs if the version on Tidal sounded worse. An example would be "Even In The Quietest Moments - Supertramp". Not really a fan of most remasters.
I would still rip the CD as my CD player is in the loft

 

[slartibartfast]

My way is going backwards. Streaming and fluid music is only a nice side aspect for me. The targets for me are my old and new turntables and their surrounding stuff. Mechanics and electronics I can adjust, repair or tweak with some screw drivers, the circuit plan, a multimeter and a soldering iron. An old vinyl with a few cracks is nicer than the best measured, bit perfect or jitterless digital device. Let every man seek heaven in his own fashion.

I rip vinyl as well. Only my old vinyl though. I haven't bought new vinyl since the 80s.

 

[Jls]

I rip vinyl as well. Only my old vinyl though. I haven't bought new vinyl since the 80s.

Post in thread 'Can a phono pre make so much difference to surface noise?'
https://audiosciencereview.com/foru...ifference-to-surface-noise.55384/post-2018756

 

[mlsstl]

I started ripping my LP and open-reel collection some 20+ years ago and have long since finished. It is nice to have those items that were never released on CD or performances that I recorded myself or given by others (I worked my way through college as a sound man for concerts) available on my local drive. LMS can integrate those for playback with my ripped & downloaded material as well as with my Qobuz subscription. The other interesting thing is I find the LPs I've transferred to digital sound just like the LP, though digital processing can help reduce the number of clicks and pops you hear. For those who complain about "digital sound" I think that is far more due to the fads and fashions prevalent in the the music industry at the moment than any fault of the recording format. (Think of the "loudness wars" phenomenon.... And I should also note there are some physical constraints to LP production that affect how much time one can have on an LP which has an impact on playback volume and bass content.)

 

[Jls]

I started ripping my LP and open-reel collection some 20+ years ago and have long since finished. It is nice to have those items that were never released on CD or performances that I recorded myself or given by others (I worked my way through college as a sound man for concerts) available on my local drive. LMS can integrate those for playback with my ripped & downloaded material as well as with my Qobuz subscription. The other interesting thing is I find the LPs I've transferred to digital sound just like the LP, though digital processing can help reduce the number of clicks and pops you hear. For those who complain about "digital sound" I think that is far more due to the fads and fashions prevalent in the the music industry at the moment than any fault of the recording format. (Think of the "loudness wars" phenomenon.... And I should also note there are some physical constraints to LP production that affect how much time one can have on an LP which has an impact on playback volume and bass content.)

Boils down to choices made in mastering. Most people would deny this, but the marketplace says people do not really like dynamic range.

I listen mostly to classical, and Vaughan Williams was fond of starting a piece with barely audible strings, followed by a full orchestra crescendo. So the temptation is to turn the volume up at the beginning, then regret it.

 

[mlsstl]

Boils down to choices made in mastering. Most people would deny this, but the marketplace says people do not really like dynamic range.

I listen mostly to classical, and Vaughan Williams was fond of starting a piece with barely audible strings, followed by a full orchestra crescendo. So the temptation is to turn the volume up at the beginning, then regret it.

Yup -- shocking that the quiet portions of a song were meant to be played -- wait for it -- quietly.

However, so much recorded music is played back in cars, or as background in noisy environments like restaurants and bars, that many recordings are dynamically compressed. And digital recording tools, in spite of the vast dynamic range of the format, has actually made things worse. In transferring LPs to digital, I used Adobe Audition. On an LP recorded in the 1960s or 70s, for example, you could see the wide variability in the peak loudness of drum strikes. These days, from digital recordings, there is virtual absolute uniformity in the peak volume of those drum hits. While this certainly makes the recording a bit more listenable at lower volumes or in difficult environments where pianississimo would go unheard, it does rob the music of some of its life when listened to in a focused manner.

The mass market usually wins.

 

[Fernandodelae]

FYI Fosi is working on one...

Co-create the CD player

Hey guys, We've been getting a lot of feedback from users expressing the need for a CD player, and we're gearing up to develop this product in 2024. Currently, the CD player is in the early stages of functionality definition, and we'd love to hear your suggestions. Let's collaborate and create...

community.fosiaudio.com

it seems like that project has sadly been dropped, as very little response from their own Forum, however they were proposing coming at a higher price range than convenient, so its still an opportunity for Wiim to head this race and embrace lots of HiFi beginners like my self.

 

[bodytorque]

What products would you like to see based on what you've experienced so far?

A few more watts versions of your amps for larger rooms and dynamics.

 

[elshaddai]

What products would you like to see based on what you've experienced so far?

Apologies if it's been described already (didn't read 46 pages of posts), but I would like to see a digital preamp with a DAC/USB input, a physical volume knob, balanced XLR output (+ RCA), multiple sub output and full crossover bass management. No amplification, no streaming, no touchscreens. Right now, the MiniDSP Flex comes closest, but you have to choose balanced or RCA outputs and it costs about $500.