slartibartfast
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It takes up more table area thoughYou mean something like a WiiM Ultra?
. Somebody really should make a Squeezebox Radio equivalent, even better for bedside table use 
What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?
. Somebody really should make a Squeezebox Radio equivalent, even better for bedside table use Yes, but smaller....You mean something like a WiiM Ultra?
I'd like to see some outdoor speakers that are Integrated in the Wiim family. Quality stuff like so that I'd have one app for indoor and outdoor music, to be used on the balcony/ in the garden - good sound and water/dustproof - this would be fantastic!
Ciao, Stefan
Ciao, Stefan
This sounds a lot like a plain amp or actual Wiim powered speakers.He hinted here…
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EddNog
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This is a great idea!
slartibartfast
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Almost exactly like the recently announced Vibelink amp then.
Not seen that. Don’t use the forum much. I’ll check it out.
Not what I wanted really.
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The ability to video
the ability to output video, such as video content on tidal .
HiFi rose has this feature and the audio is much better then using other work arounds to achieve the same .
Probably a Big Ask but you asked.
I would really like to have a Roon Ready mini type device. I've got Sonos speakers and amps all over my house with an Ultra in my living room. I don't want to trash all my Sonos hardware so a roon ready [dac-less] endpoint could get me entirely off Sonos software while keeping the devices and having them all play nice together.
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I think you nailed it on the head. But also, what’s important is the analog outputs and the digital outputs the quality of the circuit, how it’s laid out and the parts quality. The ultra is not giving me better sound than the pro, it’s cool looking definitely, but it doesn’t sound any better. I want to see a more robust output stage with better quality parts and I’m willing to pay for it. Whether it’s an amp or a streamer. Also, I don’t need a phono stage and rc in a streamer because I use an outboard phono stage and Dirac. I tried the on board phono stage in the ultra and I’m not trying to be snooty, but it’s not good at all. Room correction meh. Maybe I’m at a different point in my life and I’m willing to pay for it than say maybe a 25 to 30-year-old and I can understand that. Or maybe even somebody that’s it’s in their 40s/50’s that has children in college. But I will say I brought over a lumen (sp) transport, and used it as a transport to my dac and it absolutely annihilated the ultra, anyway I used it, it was better. How can that be? It’s only ones and zeros and everything is supposed to be bit perfect. Open up the lumen and look at the big huge power supply, all the nice high-quality caps in the analog outputs with incredible storage capabilities it sounded phenomenal the ability to drive the amplifier incredible. It made the ultra sound thin and narrow. And maybe WiiM is not trying to compete at that level with that type of product. I also think it’s absurd what the lumen transport/sreamer cost it’s absolutely freaking ridiculous. I could buy all those quality parts for half or maybe even less than what the lumen cost. But after listening to it would I buy it, yeah. If not id rather go back to playing CDs on my CD player and use my tt for music. I’m not saying the ultra is not listenable. I’m just saying there’s better out there. And what I have in my main system I’m going to buy what’s better if I’m going to stream music using Qobuz. It looks like I’ll be having to pay a lot more money for a streamer because the WiiM is not capable of doing what the lumen did in my system. I will say if I was in my 20s and these types of products were out the sound they put out gives you the ability to put a good system together for a little bit of money. Can it really compete with the big dogs no, but you’re going to pay thousands of dollars more to do that and I’m not sure WiiM is ever going to do anything like that.
Please don’t take this as a mean spirited post. I will continue to use WiiM out in my family room and out in my backyard. But in my main listening system now that I know that I can do better I will be going in that direction, but I will continue to use WiiM products for lesser situations. Again, this is not trying to be mean spirited. I’m just telling you what I heard. Do I love wiim products yes. And as I said, I will definitely continue to use them. Oh and one thing the wiim app is better than the lumens.
Please don’t take this as a mean spirited post. I will continue to use WiiM out in my family room and out in my backyard. But in my main listening system now that I know that I can do better I will be going in that direction, but I will continue to use WiiM products for lesser situations. Again, this is not trying to be mean spirited. I’m just telling you what I heard. Do I love wiim products yes. And as I said, I will definitely continue to use them. Oh and one thing the wiim app is better than the lumens.
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I use the Ultra in my living room solely as a transport / streamer. I love the HDMI port to get my TV onto a B&O system. Acquiring the Ultra removed a Sonos Beam and a Port from my system. The beam got the TV into Sonos and the I wirelessly send the signal to the port and Into the B&O. I output the Ultra to an external DAC via USB and it sounds exquisite; orders of magnitude above the Sonos solution. Without the external DAC, the Ultra sounds underwhelming, rather flat. Having said that, taking the price + function of the Ultra and adding in an external DAC, theres a value proposition that trades punches with streamers much more expensive.
Thats why I'm after a DAC-less endpoint I can simply plug into existing equipment.
Thats why I'm after a DAC-less endpoint I can simply plug into existing equipment.
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we've been asking for this pure digital transport from WiiM with ethernet, no fancy screens for a while now. basically a mini + ethernet without the analog in/out + and some extra digital outputs like USB + AES, possibly including I2S or something fancy just to satisfy the crazy DDC+DAC owners here somewhat! something like the FiiO SR11 (https://www.fiio.com/sr11) with the nice WiiM software secret sauce
but tbh i don't think they will do it anytime soon. would love to be proven wrong but i just don't think they would be able to market it alongside the current line-up that all has analog out...
we've been asking for this pure digital transport from WiiM with ethernet, no fancy screens for a while now. basically a mini + ethernet without the analog in/out + and some extra digital outputs like USB + AES, possibly including I2S or something fancy just to satisfy the crazy DDC+DAC owners here somewhat! something like the FiiO SR11 (https://www.fiio.com/sr11) with the nice WiiM software secret sauce
but tbh i don't think they will do it anytime soon. would love to be proven wrong but i just don't think they would be able to market it alongside the current line-up that all has analog out...
Kind of that but a higher end product. Filtered supply, full metal enclosure, filtered digital out ports. It’s not just functionality or lack thereof, but careful implementation with low EMI/RFI noise.
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agreed, that's what we're asking for...
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Hi Team,
If you’d like to boost the volume on your WiiM Amp Pro/Amp, try setting a positive pre-gain for your input. We recommend starting with a small increase, like +3dB, and adjusting as needed. Let us know how it works for you!
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