What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?

[justdunkit]

What do we (I say this being an actual Eversolo owner) have to gain from WiiM making the same thing as a T8 when the T8 already exists?

THE SAME FUNCTIONALITY FOR LESS! That's the the magic of Wiim and that's why they succeded. By far.
They made Mini - cheapest puck which can stream.
Pro - larger better box with more outputs.
Pro+ - Pro with better DAC.
Ultra - larger box with screen, pre-amp and USB output.
And all of it operated by a very good app!
They are just missing pure streamer.

[I'm not talking about any amps and speakers here]

 

[EddNog]

THE SAME FUNCTIONALITY FOR LESS! That's the the magic of Wiim and that's why they succeded. By far.
They made Mini - cheapest puck which can stream.
Pro - larger better box with more outputs.
Pro+ - Pro with better DAC.
Ultra - larger box with screen, pre-amp and USB output.
And all of it operated by a very good app!
They are just missing pure streamer.

[I'm not talking about any amps and speakers here]

So you could basically have said you'd like a WiiM version of the T8 for less money than Eversolo charges for the T8.

I'm not convinced that WiiM would do it. It's not WiiM's philosophy to build quite such a thing. If they do, it would probably be something like a WiiM Ultra minus DAC for less money than a WiiM Ultra, at the absolute best, and it would still have a switch-mode power supply (literally the one they already have in a WiiM Ultra).

Or perhaps replace the DAC stage with other added functionality, like a CD transport, maybe an SSD slot. In fact, they'd probably do all that and still include a DAC and charge even more than they do for the WiiM Ultra.

If I had to guess what would actually happen, that is.

Different company, different philosophy, different results.

-Ed

 

[QuarryHunslet]

They are just missing pure streamer.

They probably wouldn't sell as many of these, as they wouldn't appeal to the typical customer.

 

[justdunkit]

After working 40+ years with network and digital technology, including audio streaming and associated software, I for sure hope I have the knowledge. My employer would be very disappointed if not.

Don't try it with me) You can say you have 400+ years. The only thing that matters is what exactly you say. I dont' have 40 years of experience but I have two ears and low-end hi-fi system. I clearly hear the difference between Mini and Pro+ (via DAC) - which you and your fellow contributors denied. I clearly hear the difference between different DACs (for example, delta-sigma and multibit) - which you and your fellow contributors denied. I just want to have an affordable good quality streamer to include to my set up. I didn't ask your permission and opinion. You can keep it to your employer. Thank you.

 

[justdunkit]

So you could basically have said you'd like a WiiM version of the T8 for less money than Eversolo charges for the T8.

Yeah, kind of. But I don't promote T8 as a perfect benchmark to copy. I just mean that Eversolo realised they should make it and did it. My only wish is to make Wiim think about it. If they don't want it they just can reject my request. It's not necessary to bully me with a bunch of contributors.

 

[justdunkit]

They probably wouldn't sell as many of these, as they wouldn't appeal to the typical customer.

Ok. That's a reasonable answer. Still, I would prefer to hear from them.

 

[hgo58]

Ok. That's a reasonable answer. Still, I would prefer to hear from them.

Then write to WiiM. This is a user forum for discussing the WiiM ecosystem.

 

[justdunkit]

Then write to WiiM. This is a user forum for discussing the WiiM ecosystem.

Wiim team (Wiim admin) has made this thread to hear from users which items they would like Wiim to produce. I used this opportunity. So, thanks, mister major contributor, but no thanks. You are welcome to discuss ecosystem and anything else in other threads.

 

[slartibartfast]

Wiim team (Wiim admin) has made this thread to hear from users which items they would like Wiim to produce. I used this opportunity. So, thanks, mister major contributor, but no thanks. You are welcome to discuss ecosystem and anything else in other threads.

Yes they have. Did they respond to your previous requests for the same thing?

 

[Bill Mac]

Yeah, kind of. But I don't promote T8 as a perfect benchmark to copy. I just mean that Eversolo realised they should make it and did it. My only wish is to make Wiim think about it. If they don't want it they just can reject my request. It's not necessary to bully me with a bunch of contributors.

I would also like WiiM to make a streamer similar to the Eversolo T8 possibly with an HDMI output like the DMP-A6. Although I doubt it will happen which is fine with me. I have a WiiM Mini, Pro and Ultra as well as two DMP-A6s. I'm glad that there are two companies like WiiM and Eversolo out there producing excellent streamers with great software.

Where I disagree with you is the way you post and the fact that you feel you're being bullied. What I see is a number of argumentative posts from you with responses that you're not happy with. In other words if you wish to be argumentative you should be prepared to get negative responses in return. That's not being bullied but you getting back what you're dishing out. If you can't take it then don't post like that.

 

[justdunkit]

Yes they have. Did they respond to your previous requests for the same thing?

That is exactly why I have said they ignored DAC owners in my first post. I hope you all have great time liking each other's hilarious jokes. On behalf of Wiim customers community I thank you for your service and contribution. Oops, my bad - for your major contribution.

 

[Burnside]

I would also like WiiM to make a streamer similar to the Eversolo T8 possibly with an HDMI output like the DMP-A6.

What would an HDMI output provide that isn't delivered by the WiiM Home TV app which in part was developed because users saw an HDMI port on some WiiM devices and assumed it meant it could reproduce the now playing screen over a video output to their TV. Would you have another use in mind?

 

[justdunkit]

Where I disagree with you is the way you post and the fact that you feel you're being bullied. What I see is a number of argumentative posts from you with responses that you're not happy with. In other words if you wish to be argumentative you should be prepared to get negative responses in return. That's not being bullied but you getting back what you're dishing out. If you can't take it then don't post like that.

So, do you agree that "Separate DAC/preamps only make sense for headphones"?
Do you agree that "streamers and DACs cannot be improved any further sonically" [over Ultra and its DAC]?
... and the other guy said that since it's bit-perfect, there is no difference in sound between Mini and other Wiim streamers - do you agree with that also?

If you don't, what can you say about those who say it?

 

[JAB]

I deleted my previous post. It had the potential to make things even worse

 

[slartibartfast]

That is exactly why I have said they ignored DAC owners in my first post. I hope you all have great time liking each other's hilarious jokes. On behalf of Wiim customers community I thank you for your service and contribution. Oops, my bad - for your major contribution.

You're welcome, have a nice day

 

[RyanWithWiiM]

 

[Wiimer]

What would an HDMI output provide that isn't delivered by the WiiM Home TV app which in part was developed because users saw an HDMI port on some WiiM devices and assumed it meant it could reproduce the now playing screen over a video output to their TV. Would you have another use in mind?

If there is an HDMI output, would it be possible to output the promotional video for the music app via WiiM?

 

[emersonmsd]

A nice CD transport.

 

[castalla]

A nice CD transport.

... Plus metadata lookup & display

 

[hgo58]

... Plus metadata lookup & display

Yes. A CD unit with LinkPlay module for linking to other WiiM Devices.

Of cause also with SPDIF for non-WiiM integration.