What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?

[Indydan]

Apologies to you an @RazzFazz then.

No need to apologise It is all in good fun.

 

[Mr Ee]

Isn't spdif the protocol?

 

[claudia.bailey]

Any "full width" device and I'm out, sorry.

On the usefulness of "large screens": Potentially yes, but only if you get it right, unlike ...

I had an Eversolo A6, and I didn't agree with his video. I had mine from the first month of release. He made it sound like it was really difficult to use, and it wasn't. Were there some things that needed work? Yep, there were. But I really enjoyed having it and using it. I got rid of it and sold that and an amp, as I wanted to slim down my equipment. As my front room was starting to look like something out of Star Trek. For me, the A6 was a solid piece of equipment.

 

[harkpabst]

I had an Eversolo A6, and I didn't agree with his video. I had mine from the first month of release. He made it sound like it was really difficult to use, and it wasn't. Were there some things that needed work? Yep, there were. But I really enjoyed having it and using it. I got rid of it and sold that and an amp, as I wanted to slim down my equipment.

There's certainly room for personal taste. What suits one doesn't necessarily fit the other and vice versa. Some of the UI feature requests in this forum leave me shaking my head in disbelief, while others consider it logical and a must have.

Yet, Stjernholm made a couple of very specific points which I personally will agree on.

As my front room was starting to look like something out of Star Trek. For me, the A6 was a solid piece of equipment.

I hope that this is a valid vote against full width gear.

 

[rccarguy]

I had an Eversolo A6, and I didn't agree with his video. I had mine from the first month of release. He made it sound like it was really difficult to use, and it wasn't. Were there some things that needed work? Yep, there were. But I really enjoyed having it and using it. I got rid of it and sold that and an amp, as I wanted to slim down my equipment. As my front room was starting to look like something out of Star Trek. For me, the A6 was a solid piece of equipment.

What's wrong with that?

 

[claudia.bailey]

What's wrong with that?

It's a front room, and I have friends and family; it does not look great when people come over, nor is it very relaxing. It would be cool if I had a room that I could dedicate to that. But my main listening space is the front room of a small flat, and it starts to look cluttered and not very inviting

 

[rccarguy]

It's a front room, and I have friends and family; it does not look great when people come over, nor is it very relaxing.

If you think that's bad .... 9.3.4 av pre pre power system with multiple amplifiers, and huge speakers

haha wouldn't want it any other way.

Also you'd be soon as "cool chick" into audio rather than having fragranced candles

 

[claudia.bailey]

If you think that's bad .... 9.3.4 av pre pre power system with multiple amplifiers, and huge speakers

haha wouldn't want it any other way.

Also you'd be soon as "cool chick" into audio rather than having fragranced candles

I would love to be known as the cool chick into audio, but I have never been into fragranced candles. I love nothing better than to chill on a lovely sofa with a good cup of coffee and just sit listening to music. I found that when I had a lot of equipment, the tendency to fiddle or change speakers out, etc., got too much, and I was just not listening to music. Slimming down equipment has made me pay attention to the reason I had the equipment in the first place.

 

[cooky560]

I would love to be known as the cool chick into audio, but I have never been into fragranced candles. I love nothing better than to chill on a lovely sofa with a good cup of coffee and just sit listening to music. I found that when I had a lot of equipment, the tendency to fiddle or change speakers out, etc., got too much, and I was just not listening to music. Slimming down equipment has made me pay attention to the reason I had the equipment in the first place.

I agree with this, I have a collection of probably 10 vintage amps, people have joked on this very forum about my collection of Technics products. Most of them (apart from the vintage gear in my main system, which has remained constant for years) has been left in storage since I had the amp ultra installed in my second system.

Sometimes it's much better to have one "nice" solution as comparing (especially with the limited audio memory humans have) is usually just an exercise in frustration.

 

[IanP]

I would like to see a Media Streamer that outputs 7.1 etc on Coax to replace my Roku, which does not.

 

[rccarguy]

I would like to see a Media Streamer that outputs 7.1 etc on Coax to replace my Roku, which does not.

Kodi can do this, it'll resample PCM to multi channel my guess is Dolby Digital.

Best to leave the audio unaltered, so for 2 channel PCM leave it 2 channel PCM.

 

[TonyE]

I wonder what that better DAC would do better than the current one?

Here's one.... the sky is the limit..

Magni Piety

Schiit Collab Happens While traveling around SoCal, Christian met up with Schiit co-founder Jason Stoddard at Schiit's Valencia location. He got the chance to listen to an odd and interesting little amp. The Magni Piety ("Apostolic Edition" at the time) had the look of a Magni amp, but its...

nitschsound.com

 

[TonyE]

Kodi can do this, it'll resample PCM to multi channel my guess is Dolby Digital.

Best to leave the audio unaltered, so for 2 channel PCM leave it 2 channel PCM.

Hmm... how does Kodi do that? I have Rokus but I haven't tried feeding them into the surround processor.

 

[rccarguy]

Hmm... how does Kodi do that? I have Rokus but I haven't tried feeding them into the surround processor.

Transcode option

 

[TonyE]

Have you also been joking about the desired 1.76 dB increase in SPL? That's what 150 W will get you compared to 100 W.

IMHO, it's not the RMS power but the dynamic range added by more power and a heftier power supply.

Let me put it this way... we seldom use the quoted RMS steady power but we often use the PEAK power even at low volumes.

Even though the rated RMS might be just 1.76db louder, the actual peaks might be +6db or more...

 

[TonyE]

Transcode option

Thanks but that wasn't what I was asking. My question is how does it do it? Not how to configure it.

Does it output via 8 analog channels or does it encode the 2ch signal into 8 channels and outputs it via HDMI or optical or coax?

Kodi seems to be software, the Roku is both hardware and firmware.

I have right now Rokus hooked up via HDMI to our TVs. What do I need to do to get Kodi to do multichannel... hardware, software, wiring?

 

[rccarguy]

Thanks but that wasn't what I was asking. My question is how does it do it? Not how to configure it.

Does it output via 8 analog channels or does it encode the 2ch signal into 8 channels and outputs it via HDMI or optical or coax?

Kodi seems to be software, the Roku is both hardware and firmware.

I have right now Rokus hooked up via HDMI to our TVs. What do I need to do to get Kodi to do multichannel... hardware, software, wiring?

No idea how it does it. I don't use it.

Can you install Kodi or a branch of Kodi? Once you do go into sound options it's where you can select your device supports Dolby digital, DTS, atnos, Dolby hd, dts hd so enable what your avr supports. If you want to transcode choose the transcode option. I think it up samples stereo pcm to 5.1 Dolby digital

 

[harkpabst]

IMHO, it's not the RMS power but the dynamic range added by more power and a heftier power supply.

Let me put it this way... we seldom use the quoted RMS steady power but we often use the PEAK power even at low volumes.

Even though the rated RMS might be just 1.76db louder, the actual peaks might be +6db or more...

Why should a 50 % increase in RMS power result in +6 dB peak power? There's just no reason for that.

A "hefty power supply" (whatever the definition might be) doesn't do anything that cannot be measured. There are no miracles, anything else is audiophile dreaming.

 

[TonyE]

Why should a 50 % increase in RMS power result in +6 dB peak power? There's just no reason for that.

A "hefty power supply" (whatever the definition might be) doesn't do anything that cannot be measured. There are no miracles, anything else is audiophile dreaming.

Sorry man, it's PURE ENGINEERING (*) and simple electronics and EM.

It's the nature of the beast. RMS power requires a lot of sustained power.... Peak power is just that, short term peaks with little power, just a big swing in voltage but not sustained.

Power supply capacitors store energy, transformers handle the AC, rectifiers handle more power through them too. Increasing them is what we call a "heftier" power supply. Some power supplies are stiff (meaning they don't allow much over voltage ), others are loose ( remember the old NADs of yore that had a 6db swing from RMS to peak?). But those things are done primarily for increasing the long term, sustained RMS power of an amplifier.

For example, a "stiffer" power supply might increase the voltage from 48V to 64V.. that allows a higher output from the power devices. Remember that:

P = V^2 / R

Meaning that the power driven out is related to the voltage being output... and the output voltage is directly related to Vcc which is the output power of the power supply!

A bigger RMS rating in an amplifier, all other factors being equal, means more energy and larger swings of short term energy release. Remember that peaks do not have lots of energy in them... so doubling the steady power supply voltage will allow some pretty awesome increases in peak power ( that's what capacitors are for. BTW ). Also, low ESR caps can really swing quickly for those peaks!

Hence the gain in voltage peaks gain can be much more than the RMS gain.

Naturally, the output devices need to handle the peaks... but usually the upgrades of greater voltage parts and larger heat sinks ( for A and AB ) handle all of that.

Nothing audiophile here... just simple electronics.

(*) Have you ever soldered your way through an amp? Done schematics for it? I have.

 

[harkpabst]

Sorry man, it's PURE ENGINEERING (*) and simple electronics and EM.

It's the nature of the beast. RMS power requires a lot of sustained power.... Peak power is just that, short term peaks with little power, just a big swing in voltage but not sustained.

Power supply capacitor store energy. A bigger RMS rating in an amplifier, all other factors being equal, means more energy and larger swings of short term energy release.

Hence the gain in voltage peaks gain can be much more than the RMS gain.

Naturally, the output devices need to handle the peaks... but usually the upgrades of greater voltage parts and larger heat sinks ( for A and AB ) handle all of that.

(*) Have you ever soldered your way through an amp? Done schematics for it? I have.

That's a lot of pointless babble. Looks like you're not exactly familiar with SMPS

I replied to a request for 150 W instead of 100 W RMS. And the difference in SPL can be easily calculated.