What's your setup/configuration look like?

[Kblade97]

Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. I for my part don‘t like the looks of such tube gadgets at all. Plus you can choose your amp‘s colour with some manufacturers. I could have had my Apollon in yellow or orange. I was tempted .. ., but finally decided to stay with grey.
My remark was not directed at reducing distortion but at dramatically increasing wattage output and the ability to utilize the bass of the Epicons.

you just don’t get it

 

[Kblade97]

Very nice speakers indeed. And you got them in walnut which makes them even nicer.

If you now replace that fancy tube amp with a state-of-the-art class-D Purifi amp you can also kick out the sub and have a much sleeker setup.

Ok opinions. A class D amp is not going to make me get more low bass these speakers in room can get into the 25 hertz range range adding more wattage from a class D amp will not change that. Taking the Rel out will definitely make me lose that sub bass and close down the soundstage. It’s crossed over at 30hertz. That’s all the Dalis need again a class D amp won’t add that back

 

[Kblade97]

Very nice speakers indeed. And you got them in walnut which makes them even nicer.

If you now replace that fancy tube amp with a state-of-the-art class-D Purifi amp you can also kick out the sub and have a much sleeker setup.

I’m not sure you understand the output transformers on these it’s not about wattage. Not sure why people bash tubes. This amp tilts the scales with seventy pounds of copper and steel transformers. I’ve heard 300 watt chip amps that can come close to this to it in bass slam it is incredible. And the sub is driven by the output transformers not some cheap solid state op amps. And getting rid of a Rel which opens the sound stage and gives me sub bass is not a great idea either. Just my humble opinion, have you ever heard a RelAnd I have a NAD C399 awesome amp but not near the slam or as open as the Luna. And I can switch out to the Floyd Hybrid with a tube pre and a solid state amp. But I’m sure you would poopoo that too Do some research on how the tubes are run on PrimaLuna’s tubes last along time on these amps. They don’t have that mushy tube sound which is what I’m sure you think all tube amps sound like. Or what you say are gadgets. This amp will be around a lot longer than some Purifi amp I can guarantee that.

 

[Aquaman]

you just don’t get it

Do what you like.
If you‘re happy with your tubes, fine. I don‘t know your amp from own experience, so if it has the juice, all the better. I can also appreciate if you like a certain sounding that your amp may produce. But please don‘t poopoo neutral designs, to use your own terminology.
Don’t talk to me about ‚soundstage‘. Next comes that your wife will notice a difference from the other room …

I wasn‘t taking about a weakish NAD amp but a 9040BA Purifi implementation. It will render the purest amplification in a home application across the complete frequency band. At low levels it will not sound better or even different than any other well designed amp. But turning up the volume only moderately differences will become apparent. Hence my initial remark about the possibility to dismiss your sub.

 

[Kblade97]

Do what you like.
If you‘re happy with your tubes, fine. I don‘t know your amp from own experience, so if it has the juice, all the better. I can also appreciate if you like a certain sounding that your amp may produce. But please don‘t poopoo neutral designs, to use your own terminology.
Don’t talk to me about ‚soundstage‘. Next comes that your wife will notice a difference from the other room …

I wasn‘t taking about a weakish NAD amp but a 9040BA Purifi implementation. It will render the purest amplification in a home application across the complete frequency band. At low levels it will not sound better or even different than any other well designed amp. But turning up the volume only moderately differences will become apparent. Hence my initial remark about the possibility to dismiss your sub.

So you poo poo something you know nothing about. And I haven’t said anything about the deficiencies of class D, but I can go on and on about that as well like they sound a little bit dark/ closed in in the treble, still though they’ve come a long way. And they can’t match the openness of tubes. And that a tube amp running four KT 120s can have just as much if not more bass slam than a class D amp. And it’s not just about amplification. It’s about the preamp and the source as well. May I ask what your system is and what your speakers are. Sounds like you came from ASR right over to the WiiM forum to bash what I choose to use as equipment. It all about the measurements And I’m definitely doing what I like again can we see your system? I’ll post some more pictures when I get mine fully set up. This is just in my family room. You probably wouldn’t poo my home theater. I use all solid state amplification.

 

[Kblade97]

Do what you like.
If you‘re happy with your tubes, fine. I don‘t know your amp from own experience, so if it has the juice, all the better. I can also appreciate if you like a certain sounding that your amp may produce. But please don‘t poopoo neutral designs, to use your own terminology.
Don’t talk to me about ‚soundstage‘. Next comes that your wife will notice a difference from the other room …

I wasn‘t taking about a weakish NAD amp but a 9040BA Purifi implementation. It will render the purest amplification in a home application across the complete frequency band. At low levels it will not sound better or even different than any other well designed amp. But turning up the volume only moderately differences will become apparent. Hence my initial remark about the possibility to dismiss your sub.

So again, you bashed another company Nad. Do you enjoy music or is it more about the equipment and bashing other people’s choice of equipment? So nad is weakish. I think it’s time for you to go listen to your. Class D Purifi amps since they are the best in the world

 

[Kblade97]

Do what you like.
If you‘re happy with your tubes, fine. I don‘t know your amp from own experience, so if it has the juice, all the better. I can also appreciate if you like a certain sounding that your amp may produce. But please don‘t poopoo neutral designs, to use your own terminology.
Don’t talk to me about ‚soundstage‘. Next comes that your wife will notice a difference from the other room …

I wasn‘t taking about a weakish NAD amp but a 9040BA Purifi implementation. It will render the purest amplification in a home application across the complete frequency band. At low levels it will not sound better or even different than any other well designed amp. But turning up the volume only moderately differences will become apparent. Hence my initial remark about the possibility to dismiss your sub.

It will render the purest amplification that’s your opinion again. Or did you get the measurements from ASR that tells you so

 

[Aquaman]

It will render the purest amplification that’s your opinion again. Or did you get the measurements from ASR that tells you so

This discussion is ended right here. Have a nice life.

 

[Kblade97]

This discussion is ended right here. Have a nice life.

Thank god dude. You are a pure pleasure for the forum. Senior contributor might be the problem and good luck finding a wife I’m not sure what my wife has to do with your snarky conversation. Hopefully you’ll be able to find one with your attitude.

 

[harkpabst]

I didn't have the nerves to read through all your fights here, but please, keep it civil and have a look at the thread topic.

 

[Roedelheim]

My wife had a look and said: "Daar zijn echter veel betweters, en jij bent goed op weg om er ook een te worden!" Of course I have no idea what that means .

 

[Wiimer]

The WiiM Sound Lite in my bedroom.
I love it very much

 

[Kblade97]

My wife had a look and said: "Daar zijn echter veel betweters, en jij bent goed op weg om er ook een te worden!" Of course I have no idea what that means .

Me either, but Aquaman might

 

[Wiimer]

And this is the A10.

 

[Burnside]

And this is the A10.
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Do they help tame the speakers' treble?

 

[jfbuk]

The WiiM Sound Lite in my bedroom.
I love it very much
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wearing a hat obviously helps produce a warmer Sound

 

[Roedelheim]

I could even imagine an aluminium hat version