Why not add a monitor output

Now you're also asking for it to be a totally obsolete video connection? Are you going to connect it to a crt monitor as well then? ;)

Again, all these things can be achieved wirelessly with existing devices.
my switch box, for composite, still work! good idea! 1 yellow cable!
 
Now you sound very "vieux" 😅
Why are you and others insulting people on this forum? Any proposed feature is rejected by a bunch of millennials. Are you aware that all modern features were invented back in the 70's and 80's. This is a very toxic forum for little kids who think they are geniuses. A $200 device is as unprofessional as it gets, no matter what you say. It's just a gadget with primitive controls for people who can't understand something more complicated.
 
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Not much to add. The penetrant know-everything-better from few, combined often with statements being at least an "electronic engineer" or something like that got ridiculous. Very often I ask myself if their here proclaimed knowledge is mirrored in their professional success in real life.
 
Why the are you and others insulting people on this forum? Any proposed feature is rejected by a bunch of millennials. Are you aware that all modern features were invented back in the 70's and 80's. This is a very toxic forum for little kids who think they are geniuses. A $200 device is as unprofessional as it gets, no matter what you say. It's just a gadget with primitive controls for people who can't understand something more complicated.
Not much to add. The penetrant know-everything-better from few, combined often with statements being at least an "electronic engineer" or something like that got ridiculous. Very often I ask myself if their here proclaimed knowledge is mirrored in their professional success in real life.
 
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Why are you and others insulting people on this forum? Any proposed feature is rejected by a bunch of millennials. Are you aware that all modern features were invented back in the 70's and 80's. This is a very toxic forum for little kids who think they are geniuses. A $200 device is as unprofessional as it gets, no matter what you say. It's just a gadget with primitive controls for people who can't understand something more complicated.
Things like monitor loops, EQ, loudness curves, and even quad sound were indeed invented in the 70s (and before), however streaming was not part of the audio scene in the 70s, so people who know a lot about streaming, but perhaps not much about hifi, are as valuable as those who know about hifi, when the two ideas meet. Like most things technical, there's a "meeting of minds" between people who know about different disciplines in order to make a good product. Making a good turntable is nothing like making a good amplifier, but thankfully we have people good at both to take those tasks on, same for streaming.

Why does a person need to be an audio engineer to enjoy listening to music?


This sort of elitism is why people don't get into the hobby in the first place.

Audio retailers up and down the country are closing down because of the stigma connected to the simple act of wanting to enjoy music, and this sort of attitude is not going to help at all.

The more people are put off buying hifi (or close to) items by these sorts of comments, the more expensive, and harder to get into the hobby is going to become.
 
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Why are you and others insulting people on this forum? Any proposed feature is rejected by a bunch of millennials. Are you aware that all modern features were invented back in the 70's and 80's. This is a very toxic forum for little kids who think they are geniuses. A $200 device is as unprofessional as it gets, no matter what you say. It's just a gadget with primitive controls for people who can't understand something more complicated.
The post you quoted was clearly a joke and the subject of that joke gave it a thumbs up.
 
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As a complete non-programmer, but having spent a fair bit of time reading various discussions on the forum since I got my Amp back in April. My "innocent" question would be, is it not possible for the device (Amps/Ultra's/Pro's etc) to output an image (with controls) to a local web page we could log into via IP address to view on any device we saw fit? Whilst it might be a halfway house compared with what's requested by the OP it may satisfy some demands.

Whilst the DIY options suggested within the forum look great and are a welcome solution. Without a complete step by step idiots guide for someone with my skill level, it seems difficult to implement (I've tried without success). I do have Wiim Watcher extension but I don't think you can make that full screen within a web browser?
 
As a complete non-programmer, but having spent a fair bit of time reading various discussions on the forum since I got my Amp back in April. My "innocent" question would be, is it not possible for the device (Amps/Ultra's/Pro's etc) to output an image (with controls) to a local web page we could log into via IP address to view on any device we saw fit? Whilst it might be a halfway house compared with what's requested by the OP it may satisfy some demands.

Whilst the DIY options suggested within the forum look great and are a welcome solution. Without a complete step by step idiots guide for someone with my skill level, it seems difficult to implement (I've tried without success). I do have Wiim Watcher extension but I don't think you can make that full screen within a web browser?
Technically it's possible to implement a web server on the WiiM device (there is already one used for the HTTP API), that could display a Now Playing page. I have suggested that before.
If WiiM want to implement and maintain that is another question. They don't spend time on the PC app either.
Maybe better to just use the WHA on a tablet or get the PC app up to date?
 
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Why are you and others insulting people on this forum? Any proposed feature is rejected by a bunch of millennials. Are you aware that all modern features were invented back in the 70's and 80's. This is a very toxic forum for little kids who think they are geniuses. A $200 device is as unprofessional as it gets, no matter what you say. It's just a gadget with primitive controls for people who can't understand something more complicated.
Wow that's escalated quickly...

As you say, we're talking $200 - $300 "gadgets" here. So when somebody's asking for a built-in cd changer and (vga) video output, isn't it fair to say those features are totally out of reach? That would be an entirely new class of product.

And uhm.. streaming in the 70s and 80s?
 
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As a complete non-programmer, but having spent a fair bit of time reading various discussions on the forum since I got my Amp back in April. My "innocent" question would be, is it not possible for the device (Amps/Ultra's/Pro's etc) to output an image (with controls) to a local web page we could log into via IP address to view on any device we saw fit? Whilst it might be a halfway house compared with what's requested by the OP it may satisfy some demands.

Whilst the DIY options suggested within the forum look great and are a welcome solution. Without a complete step by step idiots guide for someone with my skill level, it seems difficult to implement (I've tried without success). I do have Wiim Watcher extension but I don't think you can make that full screen within a web browser?
It’s been a good while since I wrote that one, but IIRC the kiwi version was capable of running full screen on a big hdmi tv screen…
 
Technically it's possible to implement a web server on the WiiM device (there is already one used for the HTTP API), that could display a Now Playing page. I have suggested that before.
If WiiM want to implement and maintain that is another question. They don't spend time on the PC app either.
Maybe better to just use the WHA on a tablet or get the PC app up to date?
The old Linkplay A31 modules from Arylic/Up2Stream have a web server on port 80, unencrypted. Its UI is... primitive, at best, but it (sometimes) shows what's playing, with album art, IIRC. Been a good while since I played with one of those. The WiiM app will talk to those old modules still.
 
The old Linkplay A31 modules from Arylic/Up2Stream have a web server on port 80, unencrypted. Its UI is... primitive, at best, but it (sometimes) shows what's playing, with album art, IIRC. Been a good while since I played with one of those. The WiiM app will talk to those old modules still.
That could be a starting point for an updated webpage. It's not that complicated. An unencrypted HTTP is fine (and easy) as all communication is on local network.
 
As a bit of a long shot, perhaps you can cast the app you're using to your tv, and also use the connect to send the audio to the wiim?

Might try this with Tidal later.
 
Fired up an old Arylic A31 module, pointed the browser at port 80. It's a mess, probably hasn't worked for a while, full of errors. Anyone who claims that this stuff is "simple" has never had to write code that has to be maintained in production for years on end.

Stuck on "Loading..."

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Error city

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OTOH, the module still plays music from the WiiM app.
 
Fired up an old Arylic A31 module, pointed the browser at port 80. It's a mess, probably hasn't worked for a while, full of errors. Anyone who claims that this stuff is "simple" has never had to write code that has to be maintained in production for years on end.

Stuck on "Loading..."

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Error city

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OTOH, the module still plays music from the WiiM app.
That's a shame really.. would be nice to be able to make a direct shortcut to a web-based "now playing" screen - from the phone, computer or any Android tv box.
 
Fired up an old Arylic A31 module, pointed the browser at port 80. It's a mess, probably hasn't worked for a while, full of errors. Anyone who claims that this stuff is "simple" has never had to write code that has to be maintained in production for years on end.

Stuck on "Loading..."

View attachment 15106

Error city

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OTOH, the module still plays music from the WiiM app.
Looks like you ran into some security issues. For some strange reason the API is now protected even though it is only used on local networks. WiiM has assigned a self signed certificate to the interface that is not based on a public root.
You can try to download it and install it as trusted.
 
Looks like you ran into some security issues. For some strange reason the API is now protected even though it is only used on local networks. WiiM has assigned a self signed certificate to the interface that is not based on a public root.
You can try to download it and install it as trusted.
I have the WiiM cert installed. The Arylic issues aren't remotely related to a cert.
 
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