WiiM Amp Firmware v5.0.636856 Update - Nov 27, 2024

True but the bass still needs to be corrected. I have been correcting over the range 30-400Hz.
When I used REW to determine independent channel PEQ values the result was too much bass when I measured L+sub and R+sub due I think to the correlated left and right signals in the subwoofer. How would you obtain a better result?
Probably the wrong thread for discussing this type of things, but I would actually like to see three different levels of EQ being applied in combination:

3) Adjustment to personal taste, different quality of programme material, night time listening and so on. Could be PEQ, but just GEQ would be OK.
2) Room correction, mostly limited to the frequency range where it's really the room making the difference (but an adjustable range like we already have it is fine, of course). Must be PEQ, great if the algorithm gets further tuning.
1) Speaker EQ. If you already have spinorama data for your speakers (and you want to correct for the little defects) or you know that your silub needs taming (or a boost) in a certain frequency range, why leave this job to room correction? Make speaker EQ (optional, of course) the basic layer. People could even correct e.g. the baffle step of their full range drivers with no passive crossover components! Requires measuring equipment or reliable data. Must be PEQ.

Hint: Lyngdorf amps happen to provide exactly that. Plus virtual bass and treble knobs with variable center frequcies, but let's not go over the top. 😇
 
Finally got the update. Installing now. My JBL’s drop to about 45 Hz. I’ll run the independent rc probably tomorrow on my day off. I’ll report back.
 
I guess you gonna have to wait longer till they incorporate sub on independent. How many music does go down that low? It’s nice to have the range but few music can go down there.

I listen mostly to electronic music! Lots of music go down to 30 Hz! I could not live without a Sub! It makes so much difference.
 
True but the bass still needs to be corrected. I have been correcting over the range 30-400Hz.
When I used REW to determine independent channel PEQ values the result was too much bass when I measured L+sub and R+sub due I think to the correlated left and right signals in the subwoofer. How would you obtain a better result?

Easy!
1. You know the correction NOW for Stereo correction. Store that for a backup.
2. Run NEW RC for L/R correction from 70Hz (not sure what the deepest level will be for L/R correction) up to… ?
(The limitation is that you only have 5 bands per channel - WiiM should increase that to 10 too -, so you have to test in what frequencies you have the highest positiv impact. So you probably go up to 15kHz first to check where the „biggest gains for the buck“ are. I am not going higher, as I don‘t hear above 15kHz)
3. Add/combine the two results (low and high) manually where it is most appropriate…

It will be again a parteto approach and we will see what is better, Stereo full scale RC or L/R correction with manually adjusted Low frequency stereo correction…
It will highly dependent on the room layout, I guess.

We’ll see! 👍🏻
 
I listen mostly to electronic music! Lots of music go down to 30 Hz! I could not live without a Sub! It makes so much difference.
There many different kind of listener one of them which put a subwoofer just to rattle the window and smear the midrange and high. Emphasis on bass to make sound thick and thump during playing. In my particular case, the size of soundstage is what like than razor sharp image with tiny soundstage. That just me everyone is different. I still listen to Yamaha DSP because it can create monumental soundstage beyond the the size of the wall.
 
There many different kind of listener one of them which put a subwoofer just to rattle the window and smear the midrange and high. Emphasis on bass to make sound thick and thump during playing…

Not my piece of cake! Remember, we use RC for a reason… 😉
 
Easy!
1. You know the correction NOW for Stereo correction. Store that for a backup.
2. Run NEW RC for L/R correction from 70Hz (not sure what the deepest level will be for L/R correction) up to… ?
(The limitation is that you only have 5 bands per channel - WiiM should increase that to 10 too -, so you have to test in what frequencies you have the highest positiv impact. So you probably go up to 15kHz first to check where the „biggest gains for the buck“ are. I am not going higher, as I don‘t hear above 15kHz)
3. Add/combine the two results (low and high) manually where it is most appropriate…

It will be again a parteto approach and we will see what is better, Stereo full scale RC or L/R correction with manually adjusted Low frequency stereo correction…
It will highly dependent on the room layout, I guess.

We’ll see! 👍🏻
I have 4 filters below the crossover frequency so I suppose that leaves me 6 to use for independent channel PEQ. I haven't tried going up to high frequencies due to lack of calibration files.
 
Nothing fancy. Monitor Audio Silver S5.
Back in days when separate was on its height I was able to listen to some of the most expensive speakers that cost as much as buying exotic car. Do they sound impressive? Yes and no. If we would compare a 10k to 100k speakers sure 100k sound better but not day night difference or will make you pee because it’s that good. It was incremental increase in performance but a massive price hike as you after every ounces of performance.
 
This sounds ridiculous but immediately after the latest firmware update I was sure my system sounded different with what sounded like too much bass. Now a couple of days later it seems to have returned to normal. I did say it was ridiculous 😃
 
This sounds ridiculous but immediately after the latest firmware update I was sure my system sounded different with what sounded like too much bass. Now a couple of days later it seems to have returned to normal. I did say it was ridiculous 😃
Are you using rc or not?
 
Are you using rc or not?
You know I am. I didn't change any settings but it sounded like the PEQ wasn't being applied. It could just be me of course but it did sound strange. I even tried running the room correction again and the results looked very similar to the old values. Even the evaluation result after the RC looked OK so maybe it was just me which means I can't always trust my ears to judge sound quality. The difference between tonight and a couple of days ago is definitely "night and day" and nothing has changed 🤣
 
You know I am. I didn't change any settings but it sounded like the PEQ wasn't being applied. It could just be me of course but it did sound strange. I even tried running the room correction again and the results looked very similar to the old values. Even the evaluation result after the RC looked OK so maybe it was just me which means I can't always trust my ears to judge sound quality. The difference between tonight and a couple of days ago is definitely "night and day" and nothing has changed 🤣
I’m happy for you. Now, since you and I are fanatic on rc, we still have a change to get things better. Wiim is working on auto level, expanding eq band and separate band for sub and main. Wiim is giving us flexibility of many features. It will be nice Christmas presents if Wiim release those.
 
I’m happy for you. Now, since you and I are fanatic on rc, we still have a change to get things better. Wiim is working on auto level, expanding eq band and separate band for sub and main. Wiim is giving us flexibility of many features. It will be nice Christmas presents if Wiim release those.
Also calibration files 👍
 
Anybody know why I'm seeing this when I go to update my Ultra?
 

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That is the latest version and represents a situation where there is nothing to update.
Yes, but the number shown is not the latest firmware, which ends in a 6. The number displayed on my unit ends in a 5.
 
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